[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope

2004-04-14 Thread Chris McDonough
- Original Message - From: Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 13 April 2004 22:17, Tres Seaver wrote: snip

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope

2004-04-14 Thread Jim Fulton
Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 13 April 2004 22:17, Tres Seaver wrote: snip Of course, having two packages with names differing only in case is a bit ugly. Do we want to consider renaming one or both of these packages to avoid the conflict? -1 to renaming 'Zope'; the amount of third-party

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope

2004-04-14 Thread Jim Fulton
Chris McDonough wrote: Note that the reason I suggested renaming Zope to zope2 (or whatever) as opposed to zope to zope3 is because Zope 3 uses absolute imports almost everywhere; it would be far less work to change Zope to Zope2 because Zope 2 either uses relative imports or assumes it can find

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope

2004-04-14 Thread Jim Fulton
Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 14 April 2004 11:08, Jim Fulton wrote: ... What about z.app.foo or z.i18n? The shortness of this example is very attractive, but it is still a compromise in my opinion. Again, I think educating is easier than anything else. People understand that this is

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope

2004-04-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 11:18, Stephan Richter wrote: Because in general I don't like version numbers in the path. I also think that zope is the only name that is 100% right on. Everything else is a compromise I would try to avoid. We will be sorry about it later, when many more people run

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope

2004-04-14 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 14 April 2004 11:36, Jim Fulton wrote: Again, I think educating is easier than anything else. People understand that this is due to a merge of codebases and is for a transition period only. And, the TTW scripter will not care. But this is a really important transition.  It's a

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope

2004-04-14 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 14 April 2004 11:44, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 11:18, Stephan Richter wrote: Because in general I don't like version numbers in the path. I also think that zope is the only name that is 100% right on. Everything else is a compromise I would try to avoid. We will

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope

2004-04-14 Thread Shane Hathaway
On 04/14/04 12:27, yuppie wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: But I think that this is a big problem. Backward compatibility for Z2 *is* important. It's too bad that lots of test files have to import Zope. Sigh. Why is that a *big* problem? - It's not nice to break tests, but that doesn't necessarily

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope

2004-04-13 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 13 April 2004 22:17, Tres Seaver wrote: snip Of course, having two packages with names differing only in case is a bit ugly. Do we want to consider renaming one or both of these packages to avoid the conflict? -1 to renaming 'Zope';  the amount of third-party code which we

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope

2004-04-13 Thread Tres Seaver
Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 13 April 2004 22:17, Tres Seaver wrote: snip Of course, having two packages with names differing only in case is a bit ugly. Do we want to consider renaming one or both of these packages to avoid the conflict? -1 to renaming 'Zope'; the amount of third-party

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope

2004-04-13 Thread Fred Drake
Jim Fulton noted: Of course, having two packages with names differing only in case is a bit ugly. Do we want to consider renaming one or both of these packages to avoid the conflict? A bit ugly, but I can live with it. On Tuesday 13 April 2004 22:17, Tres Seaver wrote: -1 to renaming

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope

2004-04-13 Thread robert rottermann
Fred Drake wrote: Jim Fulton noted: Of course, having two packages with names differing only in case is a bit ugly. Do we want to consider renaming one or both of these packages to avoid the conflict? A bit ugly, but I can live with it. On Tuesday 13 April 2004 22:17, Tres Seaver wrote: -1