[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-02 Thread Martin Aspeli
Dieter Maurer wrote: I have no problems to donate "AdvancedQuery" and/or "Managable Index" to the Zope Foundation That's great, thank you! :) *BUT* I will not modify the code to bring it in line with the different style requirements usually applied to Zope components: e.g. * my code uses

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-02 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dieter Maurer wrote: > Whit ("mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]") reported that "AdvancedQuery" > is going to ship with Plone3 and that packaging would be easier for them if > "AdvancedQuery" were part of the Zope 2 distribution. > According to Whit, Alexander

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-03 Thread yuppie
Hi Dieter! Dieter Maurer wrote: Whit ("mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]") reported that "AdvancedQuery" is going to ship with Plone3 and that packaging would be easier for them if "AdvancedQuery" were part of the Zope 2 distribution. According to Whit, Alexander Limi seems to be interested to have "Man

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-03 Thread Martin Aspeli
yuppie wrote: - Should we add new products to the core? I thought we want to move away from products and use python packages instead. The AdvancedQuery code might become part of the ZCatalog package, ManagableIndex might be converted to a non-products package. There are hardly "new", though,

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-03 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Dieter Maurer wrote: Whit ("mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]") reported that "AdvancedQuery" is going to ship with Plone3 and that packaging would be easier for them if "AdvancedQuery" were part of the Zope 2 distribution. I fail to find an explanation *why* that is. According to Whit, Alexander Limi

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-03 Thread Martin Aspeli
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Dieter Maurer wrote: Whit ("mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]") reported that "AdvancedQuery" is going to ship with Plone3 and that packaging would be easier for them if "AdvancedQuery" were part of the Zope 2 distribution. I fail to find an explanation *why* that is.

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-03 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Martin Aspeli wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Dieter Maurer wrote: Whit ("mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]") reported that "AdvancedQuery" is going to ship with Plone3 and that packaging would be easier for them if "AdvancedQuery" were part of the Zope 2 distribution. I fail to find an expl

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-04 Thread Dieter Maurer
yuppie wrote at 2007-2-3 11:44 +0100: > ... >Unfortunately integrating a product into the Zope core means more than >just adjusting the coding style: > >- As already mentioned in this thread, monkey patches and code like >fixPluginIndexes.py have to be resolved. AdvancedQuery contains a monkey >

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-04 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 4 Feb 2007, at 12:47, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm not quite sure it has to be part of Zope 2 as you install it. Having it in svn.zope.org would go a long, way, though, allowing us to use svn:externals during development and potentially fix issues ourselves as appropriate

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-04 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Dieter Maurer wrote: yuppie wrote at 2007-2-3 11:44 +0100: ... Unfortunately integrating a product into the Zope core means more than just adjusting the coding style: - As already mentioned in this thread, monkey patches and code like fixPluginIndexes.py have to be resolved. AdvancedQuery co

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-04 Thread Dieter Maurer
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2007-2-4 18:35 +0100: > >Monkey patches should be avoided when they can. I think that's something >we don't need to discuss. You think this way but I disagree... There are (potentially) dangerous monkey patches and harmless ones. We discuss about a

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-04 Thread Dieter Maurer
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2007-2-4 18:35 +0100: > ... >I >think we can leave everything as it is and if Plone needs it in an svn >repo, heck, why not do vendor imports? (not in svn.zope.org, of course, >since the contributor agreement forbids that) One of the rare cases when I agree wi

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-04 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: > > --On 4. Februar 2007 18:12:52 +0100 Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Andreas Jung wrote at 2007-2-3 08:47 +0100: >>> ... * my code uses 2 blank indentation rather than the usual 4 blank (to make

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-04 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 4. Februar 2007 19:24:09 -0500 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone else should think about how to deal with this issue...I'm too much biased :-) - -1 on reformatting code, especially if we are talking about putting it in 'repos/main/Products.{AdvancedQuery,ManageableIndex}

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 5 Feb 2007, at 12:22 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Some of the holdup is in the bylaws. The bylaws were, simply put, rather overengineered, and we've been struggling to cut them down so we can actually work with them. This is holding up the IP transfer. Ok. Is there anything us mere mortals can d

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-05 Thread Rocky Burt
On Mon, 2007-05-02 at 12:26 +0100, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > On 5 Feb 2007, at 12:22 , Martijn Faassen wrote: > > Another is of course who is doing the hosting. Currently we're using > > ZC's infrastructure for SVN. We need to shift it away from ZC's > > infrastructure at some point to mak

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-05 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Wichert Akkerman wrote: >> Note that we have the same issue with ZopeVersionControl, which is >> currently only in CVS. An import of that into subversion would make a >> lot of us very happy. > > I asked Jim about

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-13 Thread whit
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Dieter Maurer wrote: yuppie wrote at 2007-2-3 11:44 +0100: ... Unfortunately integrating a product into the Zope core means more than just adjusting the coding style: - As already mentioned in this thread, monkey patches and code like fixPluginIndexes.py hav

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Dieter Maurer wrote: >> You fetch it from my Zope page and put it into a subversion >> repository (perferably on a vendor branch) of your choice. > > Hanno imported it at http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/AdvancedQuery > two days ago. We'll try to keep that s

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-03 Thread Janko Hauser
First let me say, that I'm in favour to add these products to Zope in some form, to take the chance to enhance the zcatalog significantly. Am 03.02.2007 um 14:34 schrieb Martin Aspeli: yuppie wrote: - Should we add new products to the core? I thought we want to move away from products and

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-03 Thread Janko Hauser
Replying to my own post, Am 03.02.2007 um 15:14 schrieb Janko Hauser: There are hardly "new", though, they've been around for ages and have enthusiastic users. Those users always found it hard to convince people to adopt them more widely because they were not in the standard repositories a

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: > Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > >Dieter Maurer wrote: > >>Whit ("mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]") reported that "AdvancedQuery" > >>is going to ship with Plone3 and that packaging would be easier for them > >>if > >>"AdvancedQuery" were part of the Zope 2 distributio

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Feb 2007, at 12:47, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm not quite sure it has to be part of Zope 2 as you install it. Having it in svn.zope.org would go a long, way, though, allowing us to use svn:externals during development and potentially fix issu

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Feb 2007, at 18:27, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Note that we have the same issue with ZopeVersionControl, which is currently only in CVS. An import of that into subversion would make a lot of us very happy. I think it has been mentioned

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-04 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 4. Februar 2007 18:39:22 +0100 Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Feb 2007, at 18:27, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Note that we have the same issue with ZopeVersionControl, which is currently only in CVS. An import of that

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-04 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 4. Februar 2007 18:44:38 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --On 4. Februar 2007 18:39:22 +0100 Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Feb 2007, at 18:27, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Note that we have the same is

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-05 Thread Jürgen Herrmann
On Mon, February 5, 2007 12:26, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > On 5 Feb 2007, at 12:22 , Martijn Faassen wrote: >> Some of the holdup is in the bylaws. The bylaws were, simply put, >> rather overengineered, and we've been struggling to cut them down so >> we can actually work with them. This i

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Rocky Burt wrote: > On Mon, 2007-05-02 at 12:26 +0100, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > > On 5 Feb 2007, at 12:22 , Martijn Faassen wrote: > > > Another is of course who is doing the hosting. Currently we're using > > > ZC's infrastructure for SVN. We need to shift it away from ZC's >

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Note that we have the same issue with ZopeVersionControl, which is > currently only in CVS. An import of that into subversion would make a > lot of us very happy. I asked Jim about this and he told me to just import the current CVS code into svn and go from the

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Tres Seaver wrote: > I looked at my CVS checkout, and noticed that a file ('tests/common.py') > had not been checked in for ZVC 0.3.3. I therefore checked it in, > tagged 0.3.4, and re-imported the SVN version from that tag. Finally, I > added an 'ATTENTION_THIS_AREA_IS_NOW_CLOSED.txt'

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-13 Thread Dieter Maurer
whit wrote at 2007-2-12 10:22 -0600: > ... >I'm not sure this warranted this much discussion or getting panties in a >bunch, but maybe something was learned here. As phrased early on, it >would be *nice* for those of us using svn:externals to manage certain >build processes to have AdvancedQuer

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Dieter Maurer wrote: > You fetch it from my Zope page and put it into a subversion > repository (perferably on a vendor branch) of your choice. Hanno imported it at http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/AdvancedQuery two days ago. We'll try to keep that synchronised with your work. Wiche

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in "AdvancedQuery" and/or "ManagableIndex"?

2007-02-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Hanno Schlichting wrote: > Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Previously Dieter Maurer wrote: > >> You fetch it from my Zope page and put it into a subversion > >> repository (perferably on a vendor branch) of your choice. > > > > Hanno imported it at http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/Advanc