Re: [Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-07 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 4/7/06, Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's why I didn't say *replacement* but *alternative*. > > Jim is actively in favor of making acquisition wrappers support the Z3 > location framework (i.e., expose '__parent__' and '__name__'), which > would be neither. ;) Or both. :) -- Le

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-07 Thread Martijn Faassen
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: [snip] The real goal behind all this is to make the security machinery in Zope 2 understand the ILocation API so that you won't *have to* rely on Acquisition (but instead can use ILocation). Of course, you would still be able to use Acquisition. Yes, that would

[Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-06 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: > Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: >>> Dieter Maurer wrote: >>> Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2006-4-5 22:28 +0200: > ... > We > probably want make Zope 3 style containment an alternative to > Acquisition in Zope 2 at some point. You are aware

[Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-06 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > Dieter Maurer wrote: > >>Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2006-4-5 22:28 +0200: >> >>>... >>>We >>>probably want make Zope 3 style containment an alternative to >>>Acquisition in Zope 2 at some point. >> >>You are

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-06 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Dieter Maurer wrote: > Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2006-4-5 22:28 +0200: >> ... >> We >> probably want make Zope 3 style containment an alternative to >> Acquisition in Zope 2 at some point. > > You are aware how many applications a replacement of acquisition > by "Zope 3 containment" would

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-06 Thread Dieter Maurer
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2006-4-5 22:28 +0200: > ... >We >probably want make Zope 3 style containment an alternative to >Acquisition in Zope 2 at some point. You are aware how many applications a replacement of acquisition by "Zope 3 containment" would break? -- Dieter

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: As for the extractor: it can very well be used for other projects than Zope 3. As you said, you guys are using it for the CMF. I would therefore still suggest moving it to zope.i18n. We've been using a slightly forked version for Silva for quite a while. I fo

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Well, CMFonFive uses zope.app.publisher.browser, because that's where the menus hang. We would like to start using browser menus in Plone I was asking about current usage, not pious new years resolutions :). This is the wrong attitud

[Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-06 Thread Paul Winkler
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:30:05PM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > Paul Winkler wrote: > > Aside from stuff mentioned on your proposal, we are using macros from > > zope.app.rotterdam.standardmacros. > > Aha. Why? Are you actually using parts of the Rotterdam skin? Heh. Actually, a clos

[Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-06 Thread yuppie
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: yuppie wrote: Sounds good to me. At least if someone finds time to refactor the extractor. For now it is quite specific code for creating the zope gettext files and would better fit in zope.translations. On second thought, I think we should think about the zope

[Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-06 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
yuppie wrote: > Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: >> yuppie wrote: >>> And CMF uses zope.app.locales.extract. Not in the CMF products, but for >>> a script that extracts i18n messages. That script is a quick hack and >>> zope.app.locales.extract isn't really made for reuse. But it contains >>> some

[Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-06 Thread yuppie
Hi Philipp! Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: yuppie wrote: And CMF uses zope.app.locales.extract. Not in the CMF products, but for a script that extracts i18n messages. That script is a quick hack and zope.app.locales.extract isn't really made for reuse. But it contains some useful code. You

[Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-06 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
yuppie wrote: > Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: >> I would like to know what other zope.app packages your 3rd party >> software is using. If thereare any other used than the ones mentioned in >> the proposal, we'll have to move them out of zope.app. I'd like to ask >> for your help on that, other

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-06 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Martijn Faassen wrote: Well, CMFonFive uses zope.app.publisher.browser, because that's where the menus hang. >>> We would like to start using browser menus in Plone >> >> I was asking about current usage, not pious new years resolutions :). > > This is the wrong attitude. Current usage s

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Well, CMFonFive uses zope.app.publisher.browser, because that's where the menus hang. We would like to start using browser menus in Plone I was asking about current usage, not pious new years resolutions :). This is the wrong attitude. C

[Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-06 Thread yuppie
Hi Philipp! Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I would like to know what other zope.app packages your 3rd party software is using. If thereare any other used than the ones mentioned in the proposal, we'll have to move them out of zope.app. I'd like to ask for your help on that, otherwise future

[Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Paul Winkler wrote: > On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 05:29:41PM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: >> I would like to know what other zope.app packages your 3rd party >> software is using. If thereare any other used than the ones mentioned in >> the proposal, we'll have to move them out of zope.app.

[Zope-dev] Re: What from zope.app are you using

2006-04-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Martin Aspeli wrote: >> Well, CMFonFive uses zope.app.publisher.browser, because that's where >> the menus hang. > > We would like to start using browser menus in Plone I was asking about current usage, not pious new years resolutions :). >> CPS uses zope.app.container for the container events a