Re: [Zope3-Users] zalchemy integration

2006-08-10 Thread Carlo Cardelli
David Pratt wrote: Hi Carlo. As a workaround to get objects into the db you can comment out the following lines in checkName like this: def checkName(self, name, container): if isinstance(name, str): name = unicode(name) elif not isinstance(name, unicode):

Re: [Zope3-Users] zalchemy integration

2006-08-12 Thread David Pratt
Hi Jeff. Your approach is very interesting. There is lots room in Zope for differences in the way applications are tackled to deliver on requirements. My feeling is that explicit object metadata and some of the content-management-esque concepts in Zope fit prominently into the future of the web

Re: [Zope3-Users] zalchemy integration

2006-08-12 Thread David Pratt
Hi Jeff. Good points. I can really add anything more to this other than I believe there are great possibilities working with Zope 3 in something that is more tightly bound or not. Zope 3's architecture will be become as flexible as python itself and it future packaging choices will only undersc

Re: [Zope3-Users] zalchemy integration

2006-08-13 Thread David Pratt
Hi Roger. This is really interesting. It would be good to see a very small demo of these nice packages you have been contributing - something that would put together the minimal layer, menu package, and a few basic viewlets just to give folks a basic idea of what can be acheived 'minimally'. A

RE: [Zope3-Users] zalchemy integration

2006-08-14 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi David [...] > Hi Roger. This is really interesting. It would be good to see > a very small demo of these nice packages you have been > contributing - something > that would put together the minimal layer, menu package, > and a few basic viewlets just to give folks a basic idea of > what c

Re: [Zope3-Users] zalchemy integration

2006-08-14 Thread Carlo Cardelli
Jeff, Before everything else, thank you very much for sharing your thoughts and experience: as a newcomer, I found them very valuable. Hm. It seems like a NameChooser should *somehow* be giving you a usable name. That pair:: container[name] = content return container[name] seems redun

Re: [Zope3-Users] zalchemy integration

2006-08-14 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 14 August 2006 05:08, Carlo Cardelli wrote: >  > I think that my company's recent experiences with Zope and SQLAlchemy > > > show that the fundamentals of Zope can be terrific toolkit for rich > > object oriented RDBMS / Business Object backed applications that have > > nothing to do with

Re: [Zope3-Users] zalchemy integration

2006-08-14 Thread David Pratt
Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi David [...] Hi Roger. This is really interesting. It would be good to see a very small demo of these nice packages you have been contributing - something that would put together the minimal layer, menu package, and a few basic viewlets just to give folks a basic ide

Re: Re: [Zope3-Users] zalchemy integration

2006-08-11 Thread Jeff Shell
On 8/10/06, Carlo Cardelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Once skipped this, the process halted while adding the 'blank' object to the db: in zope.app.container.browser.adding, in the method add(), the following lines failed: container[name] = content ... one ininfluent-for-this-p

Re: Re: [Zope3-Users] zalchemy integration

2006-08-12 Thread Jeff Shell
On 8/12/06, David Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Jeff. Your approach is very interesting. There is lots room in Zope for differences in the way applications are tackled to deliver on requirements. My feeling is that explicit object metadata and some of the content-management-esque concepts i

RE: Re: [Zope3-Users] zalchemy integration

2006-08-13 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Jeff [...] > With the ZMI, I end up asking "is this the UI I want to > deliver to my customer?" And the answer is rarely "yes!" I > feel like I have to arm wrestle a lot more to turn off and > hide features. I still don't really understand how the 'Add' > menu works. Did you see the layer

Re: Re: [Zope3-Users] zalchemy integration

2006-08-14 Thread Jeff Shell
On 8/14/06, Carlo Cardelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that my company's recent experiences with Zope and SQLAlchemy > show that the fundamentals of Zope can be terrific toolkit for rich > object oriented RDBMS / Business Object backed applications that have > nothing to do with content