except that "sending it back" could cost over $1200 (Canadian) depending on
model.
They will replace the system board, and it's not covered under warranty.
I work at an IBM service centre, and we have had this issue.  Some notebooks
can be cleared without this step, if I had the 7 digit model number, and the
serial number, I could tell if this is one.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:37 PM
> To: 'leon'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ThinkPad A20 bios question
> 
> 
> As drastic as it is, such passwords are good theft prevention measure.
> By not allowing the system to boot without a password, even if CMOS
> batteries etc are removed, theft becomes considerably less profitable.
> 
> As for brute-forcing the BIOS, this would be somewhat trivial if the
> system would boot and allow you to run code on it.  It, however, will
> not.  To brute force the password, you'd have to pull the chip and put
> it in a rig that would allow you to interact with it (where you could
> probably just read the string out of it).  Such things are 
> probably far
> beyond cost-effective.
> 
> Unfortunately, your best bet (aside from forcing the guy to 
> sit down and
> really think *hard* about what the PW might be) is to send it back.
> 
> Sorry for the bad news.
> 
> -= Eric Lawrence =-
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: leon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ThinkPad A20 bios question
> 
> 
> I have run into a client who has set a supervisor (or is a 
> supervisor I
> was a little confused by the description) password on the bios of a
> ThinkPad A20.  We have contacted IBM and they say the only way to fix
> this issue is to replace the systemboard of the computer.  Is this
> true???? That seems super-drastic.  Anyone have any better ideas or
> programs that are made to specifically brute force bios (not sure if
> that is possible).  The bios version is 1.09 (IWET55WW) I am 
> not sure of
> the maker (award, phoenix, etc) because this is all 4th hand
> information.
> 
> Anyway anyone with suggestions (not flames, I am not person 
> who set the
> bios password and did not write it down) please feel free to respond
> publicly or privately.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Leon
> 

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