Igor,
Perhaps one of the reasons you're not getting job offers--or interviews--is
because many times, hiring managers see all of those letters and think,
"This is a person who likes to read books and take tests." My
recommendation would be to forget all of those dumb certifications, and
focus on getting a job. Employers are interested in what you can do for
them, rather than what you've done for yourself (just MHO).

Drew Williams
Senior Security Service Analyst for North America
SYMANTEC




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Out of curiosity, how did you manage the CCIE without work experience?
From
everyone I've talked to, including other CCIEs, this is nearly an
impossible
feat unless you've been working with it for a while in a hands-on
environment.  Do you have a photographic memory!? :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 5:25 AM
To: Igor D. Spivak; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Certification Advice


I have a CAN, CCIE, CCNA, CCDP, MCSE, and an A+, and currently attending
collage for computer science.
I still cant get a job, because I have no work experience.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor D. Spivak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: Certification Advice


> I have decided to pursue some form of certification in order to increase
the
> number of pages on my resume.
> My background -- about 6 years of Systems Administration, including some
> security administration on
> Linux, MS, and Sun platforms. There are too many certification programs
> availiable, and I was wondering which ones do you recommend and which
ones
> have real market value? (would you hire a person with such a
> certification?). I am adverse to MS cerifications (no offence meant to
> anyone) as i consider them a waste of time and money, but if thats what
> sells, please tell me. So far I never had a problem finding employment
w/o
> any certification, but it looks like more and more job postings require
> certification (and not so much experience).
>
> regards,
>
> igor d. spivak
>






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