-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Good questions at such a young age. You're ahead of most I'd bet already. What about checking out a vocational school or a bachlorship program at a university - then seeking a professional internship after a year or two? Having focused heavily in undergrad on math and computers my advise is to not pass up on some form of libeal arts education while you're young. I've found the time is much harder to "justify" as you get older and I really wished now I had the time for more deversified studies. Regarding an internship - come to the table with something to offer. Desire is an excellent start ;). Last - there are avenues you can pursue more directly related to security with Government agencies and the military - though again I wouldn't neglect some liberal arts studies. Check with your high school guidence councilor as well.
I hope this is helpful kid. Good luck- byron - -----Original Message----- From: william taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: certification advice i am a beginner in security, and i am going to be starting on my A+ certification course pretty soon. i had a question regarding your talk of "experience" and "applied knowledge." how exactly does a person GET this experience and applied knowledge? is it from a job (in which case, how do you get the job without experience)? or is it from being an "apprentice," if you will (in which case, how do you become an apprentice)? i am still in high school, and so i was just wondering which path to take, how to get there, etc... anyone with any imput would be a great help charles >From: "Jason M. Jaszewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: FW: Certification Advice >Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:14:59 -0600 > >Just figured I'd throw in my $0.02. I think that the whole idea >behind certs >is just that you have proof that you have basic knowledge of >whatever you're >certified in. This doesn't mean the tests are necessarily easy. It >is possible to get a lot just by studying a book, but again, you >don't get experience that way. As someone who is going through the >process right now, I can say it does open doors to the interview, >but experience and actual applied knowledge are the key. Had I not >had some experience in networking, I would not have the particular >job I do have, only because I have A+, Net+, >and MCP; experience got me there. My goal is to get the certs (MCSE, > CCNA, CCNP, etc.), get as much experience as I can, and then look >for the open doors. In past interviews, much less emphasis was put >on the actual cert (one person didn't know what Net+ cert is, which >isn't very surprising), and more was put on what I've done in the >field and what I've learned from that, >than what my books, or even classes, taught me. The idea here is >that a book >can try and cover many things, but there are many, many more >problems and situations that arise that aren't easily figured out >from reading a chapter. >Hence, one of the reasons for this list. If you have the money, I >would say get the certs. Chances are, they won't hurt your chances. > >j > >-----Original Message----- >From: nivek_009 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:56 PM >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Certification Advice > > >CAN? Not familiar with this, are you referring to Novell's CNA, by >any chance? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Daymon McCartney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:09 PM >Subject: RE: Certification Advice > > > > Out of curiosity, how did you manage the CCIE without work > > experience? >From > > everyone I've talked to, including other CCIEs, this is nearly an >impossible > > feat unless you've been working with it for a while in a hands-on > > environment. Do you have a photographic memory!? :-) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 5:25 AM > > To: Igor D. Spivak; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Certification Advice > > > > I have a CAN, CCIE, CCNA, CCDP, MCSE, and an A+, and currently > > attending collage for computer science. I still cant get a job, > > because I have no work experience. > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBPGidk7J5kzip4z5UEQK5qwCglommyT6eJAN/tJm0tz8R0ro/3ncAniub b2NvDDAbGe5o+jj1CDVh0o2o =Gijw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
