Port 25 blocking at Verizon routers is news to me. I have a Verizon dsl connection and am able to connect to other mail servers just fine. I'm not sure how outbound blocking of smtp would cut down spam anyway, unless they're worried that you are going to be relaying off your own server. I get gobs of spam in my Verizon mailbox, virtually none in my work accounts. Fred
-----Original Message----- From: Erik Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:34 PM To: Drew Hallward Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Apache Security Issue Drew, I'm going to assume you're not behind any sort of firewall on your side.. Verizon's TOS say that users are allowed to run services, however they block inbound port 80 on their routers. You cannot run a web server. (Some may be able to, based on different account types, or possibly even misconfigured local setups to them). Verizon also blocks you from connecting to port 25 of any machine outside of your subnet, so you are forced to use their mail server, to prevent spam. (MSN, Earthlink, AOL.. All do it as well) Your best bet would to be run the web server on an off port, like 8080, and if you can, run www.yourdomain.com on another machine, that just has a redirect to http://homebox.domain.com:8080 This isn't really security related, but I Hope it helps. DH> If I do a "netstat -na --ip" it tells me it is listening on DH> port 80 just fine, just like ssh is, but when I go to DH> connect from a browser it just times out. I made DH> sure there were no iptable rules prohibiting it from DH> connecting, and can also connect fine from the DH> inside the LAN. To further troubleshoot I did DH> a "tcpdump -i any port 80" and nothing comes up DH> when I try to go to my address. It is almost as if it is DH> being blocked before it even reaches my machine. DH> Like I said ssh works fine on it from a remote DH> machine. I am using verizon-dsl. Any help would be DH> greatly appreciated. DH> Thanks, DH> Drew DH>