It's not rumor...the NSA administers the program, but it is for the
Department of Defense.  The Government will pay for the last two years of
your undergrad, or two years of your master's.  The catch is that you have
to work as an intern in the job "they" select, while in college, and then
work anywhere in the world in the job they select for two years after
completing your degree.  I think if your a student, it's a good way to get
your security clearance!  :-)

Only US citizens need apply.   Space is limited, so ask your congressman for
a reference letter.  ;-)

see this link for more information:    www.nsa.gov/isso  About NSA INFOSEC

and http://www.nsa.gov/isso/programs/nietp/newspg1.htm  for specifics on the
program.




-----Original Message-----
From: David Andersson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:17 PM
To: Tim V(@DZ); [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: College advice


Tim,

Is this rumor only, or do you have some links to go with this?

Dave A

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim V(@DZ)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:21 AM
Subject: College advice


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> The NSA will actually pay for some or all of your higher education if
> you stick with computer security.  The catch is you have to go to one
> of the approved schools.  The only one I remember from the list was
> ISU.  Then you are required to work for the NSA for X number of years
> after school if I remember right.  Anyway, you can search around
> google or the NSA website for more info.
>
> - -t
>
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: William Laubernds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 2:06 PM
> To: Nick Patellis; 'Coffey, Christopher S.'; 'william taylor';
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: certification advice
>
>
> Hello All,
> I have a similar question to the one that was asked earlier.   I'm in
> 11th
> grade and have pretty much made up my mind to take the path of going
> to
> college.  I was wondering if there are any good colleges that you
> might
> recommend to me that specialize in networking security as a
> major(looking for
> Bachelors degree if available).
>
> Thanks,
> William
>
> > Here is my view:
> >
> > IF you have the time the 4 yr degree always wins in the end.
> > Especially in a time of a economic slowdown.  I live in central Fla
> >  and I can say that a degree w\o experience is better than a cert
> > w\o  exp.  However, it does take commitment! Of all the areas where
> > I
> > believe this is true is in SW development.  Anybody can pickup a
> > C++  book and with a lot of effort, be a good "programmer".  Very
> > few can  truly become good SW Engineers.  There is a big difference
> > between the  two.  I have worked with both types and the SW
> > Engineer is the way to  go and will always be ahead in the hiring
> > process.
> >
> > BTW, I am NOT a programmer, just a humble security type.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Nick Patellis
> > Attorneys' Title Insurance Fund
> > 407.240.3863 x7412
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > "The desire to click through far outweighs the reason not to."
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Coffey, Christopher S.
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 11,
> > 2002 2:15 PM
> > To: 'william taylor'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: certification advice
> >
> > Ok, There are two basic paths to take depending on your situation.
> >
> > 1- Go to college and get a good technical degree (Computer science
> > or  Electrical Engineering) so at 22-23 years of age you get your
> > first  job, with a degree and some type of part time work
> > experience (while  in college) you should be able to start out
> > around $40k/ish. After 4-5  years experience and a few
> > certifications under your belt you should  be in the $70-80k range
> > depending on the cost of living in the area  you work.
> >
> > 2- The other route (this is how I went) its a bit harder but some
> > think its better (all about how you want to get there) After high
> > school I joined the Navy and went into a IT field as a computer
> > specialist. After 10 years, I moved into the Civilian side with a
> > AS  degree and a couple of certifications and 10 years of IT
> > experience. I  was able to make 60k+ right out the door. Now as I
> > get some more
> > civilian experience and work toward my BS degree I'll be able to
> > move  up toward the $100k range...
> >
> > These are but two examples, it really boils down to you either have
> > to  go to school (buy your education), or work your way up from the
> > bottom  (apprentice), the more you learn- and the faster you learn,
> > the faster  you will climb the ladder. As far as getting the
> > experience and
> > applied knowledge they just take time.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: william taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 2:42 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: certification advice
> >
> >
> > i am a beginner in security, and i am going to be starting on my A+
> >  certification course pretty soon.  i had a question regarding your
> >  talk of "experience" and "applied knowledge."  how exactly does a
> > person GET this experience and applied knowledge?  is it from a job
> >  (in which case, how do you get the job without experience)?  or is
> > it  from being an "apprentice," if you will (in which case, how do
> > you  become an apprentice)?  i am still in
> >
> > high school, and so i was just wondering which path to take, how to
> >  get there, etc...  anyone with any imput would be a great help
> >
> > charles
>
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