Tim, Is this rumor only, or do you have some links to go with this?
Dave A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim V(@DZ)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:21 AM Subject: College advice > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > The NSA will actually pay for some or all of your higher education if > you stick with computer security. The catch is you have to go to one > of the approved schools. The only one I remember from the list was > ISU. Then you are required to work for the NSA for X number of years > after school if I remember right. Anyway, you can search around > google or the NSA website for more info. > > - -t > > > > - -----Original Message----- > From: William Laubernds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 2:06 PM > To: Nick Patellis; 'Coffey, Christopher S.'; 'william taylor'; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: certification advice > > > Hello All, > I have a similar question to the one that was asked earlier. I'm in > 11th > grade and have pretty much made up my mind to take the path of going > to > college. I was wondering if there are any good colleges that you > might > recommend to me that specialize in networking security as a > major(looking for > Bachelors degree if available). > > Thanks, > William > > > Here is my view: > > > > IF you have the time the 4 yr degree always wins in the end. > > Especially in a time of a economic slowdown. I live in central Fla > > and I can say that a degree w\o experience is better than a cert > > w\o exp. However, it does take commitment! Of all the areas where > > I > > believe this is true is in SW development. Anybody can pickup a > > C++ book and with a lot of effort, be a good "programmer". Very > > few can truly become good SW Engineers. There is a big difference > > between the two. I have worked with both types and the SW > > Engineer is the way to go and will always be ahead in the hiring > > process. > > > > BTW, I am NOT a programmer, just a humble security type. > > > > Regards > > > > Nick > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Nick Patellis > > Attorneys' Title Insurance Fund > > 407.240.3863 x7412 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "The desire to click through far outweighs the reason not to." > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Coffey, Christopher S. > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 11, > > 2002 2:15 PM > > To: 'william taylor'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: certification advice > > > > Ok, There are two basic paths to take depending on your situation. > > > > 1- Go to college and get a good technical degree (Computer science > > or Electrical Engineering) so at 22-23 years of age you get your > > first job, with a degree and some type of part time work > > experience (while in college) you should be able to start out > > around $40k/ish. After 4-5 years experience and a few > > certifications under your belt you should be in the $70-80k range > > depending on the cost of living in the area you work. > > > > 2- The other route (this is how I went) its a bit harder but some > > think its better (all about how you want to get there) After high > > school I joined the Navy and went into a IT field as a computer > > specialist. After 10 years, I moved into the Civilian side with a > > AS degree and a couple of certifications and 10 years of IT > > experience. I was able to make 60k+ right out the door. Now as I > > get some more > > civilian experience and work toward my BS degree I'll be able to > > move up toward the $100k range... > > > > These are but two examples, it really boils down to you either have > > to go to school (buy your education), or work your way up from the > > bottom (apprentice), the more you learn- and the faster you learn, > > the faster you will climb the ladder. As far as getting the > > experience and > > applied knowledge they just take time. > > > > Chris > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: william taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 2:42 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: certification advice > > > > > > i am a beginner in security, and i am going to be starting on my A+ > > certification course pretty soon. i had a question regarding your > > talk of "experience" and "applied knowledge." how exactly does a > > person GET this experience and applied knowledge? is it from a job > > (in which case, how do you get the job without experience)? or is > > it from being an "apprentice," if you will (in which case, how do > > you become an apprentice)? i am still in > > > > high school, and so i was just wondering which path to take, how to > > get there, etc... anyone with any imput would be a great help > > > > charles > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> > > iQA/AwUBPHPa/+NpgK+KgsrYEQKm3gCgt58bLFxmtHiuJ+0u1qZ3wbWNJQoAoMOj > 8SzBX/lGhaybDgb3maLJM4sj > =A0Uf > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >
