Hello Everyone, I wanted to thank all of you for the great tips and links you gave to me. I will be looking into all the advice that you supplied me with.
As always any other info that you come across will be appreciated. Thanks again, William >I can vouch that this is true. I'm currently undergoing "processing" at the > NSA for employment in the area of network security. > > The way it was explained to me during my initial processing was that the > NSA will pay for an advanced degree. It wasn't specifically mentioned that > you must attend an approved Centers of Excellence school > (http://www.nsa.gov/isso/programs/nietp/newspg1.htm) or not. > > However, you will need to "pay them back" with time. In other words, if it > takes you two years to earn your masters, then you commit to the NSA for > another two years. > > Here's the best part! If you want to take time off from work to pursue the > degree, the NSA will not only pay for school, but you can collect your full > salary while attending school full-time. I believe this is possible for two > semester only. I was informed that many people will take a full year off, > two semesters back-to-back (they call it a "tour of duty"), and get paid > while doing it! > > Terry Dunlap > An NSA Hopeful > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Andersson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Tim V(@DZ)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:17 PM > Subject: Re: College advice > > > Tim, > > > > Is this rumor only, or do you have some links to go with this? > > > > Dave A > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tim V(@DZ)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:21 AM > > Subject: College advice > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > The NSA will actually pay for some or all of your higher education if > > > you stick with computer security. The catch is you have to go to one > > > of the approved schools. The only one I remember from the list was > > > ISU. Then you are required to work for the NSA for X number of years > > > after school if I remember right. Anyway, you can search around > > > google or the NSA website for more info. > > > > > > - -t > > > > > > > > > > > > - -----Original Message----- > > > From: William Laubernds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 2:06 PM > > > To: Nick Patellis; 'Coffey, Christopher S.'; 'william taylor'; > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: certification advice > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > I have a similar question to the one that was asked earlier. I'm in > > > 11th > > > grade and have pretty much made up my mind to take the path of going > > > to > > > college. I was wondering if there are any good colleges that you > > > might > > > recommend to me that specialize in networking security as a > > > major(looking for > > > Bachelors degree if available). > > > > > > Thanks, > > > William > > > > > > > Here is my view: > > > > > > > > IF you have the time the 4 yr degree always wins in the end. > > > > Especially in a time of a economic slowdown. I live in central Fla > > > > and I can say that a degree w\o experience is better than a cert > > > > w\o exp. However, it does take commitment! Of all the areas where > > > > I > > > > believe this is true is in SW development. Anybody can pickup a > > > > C++ book and with a lot of effort, be a good "programmer". Very > > > > few can truly become good SW Engineers. There is a big difference > > > > between the two. I have worked with both types and the SW > > > > Engineer is the way to go and will always be ahead in the hiring > > > > process. > > > > > > > > BTW, I am NOT a programmer, just a humble security type. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Nick Patellis > > > > Attorneys' Title Insurance Fund > > > > 407.240.3863 x7412 > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "The desire to click through far outweighs the reason not to." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Coffey, Christopher S. > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 11, > > > > 2002 2:15 PM > > > > To: 'william taylor'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: certification advice > > > > > > > > Ok, There are two basic paths to take depending on your situation. > > > > > > > > 1- Go to college and get a good technical degree (Computer science > > > > or Electrical Engineering) so at 22-23 years of age you get your > > > > first job, with a degree and some type of part time work > > > > experience (while in college) you should be able to start out > > > > around $40k/ish. After 4-5 years experience and a few > > > > certifications under your belt you should be in the $70-80k range > > > > depending on the cost of living in the area you work. > > > > > > > > 2- The other route (this is how I went) its a bit harder but some > > > > think its better (all about how you want to get there) After high > > > > school I joined the Navy and went into a IT field as a computer > > > > specialist. After 10 years, I moved into the Civilian side with a > > > > AS degree and a couple of certifications and 10 years of IT > > > > experience. I was able to make 60k+ right out the door. Now as I > > > > get some more > > > > civilian experience and work toward my BS degree I'll be able to > > > > move up toward the $100k range... > > > > > > > > These are but two examples, it really boils down to you either have > > > > to go to school (buy your education), or work your way up from the > > > > bottom (apprentice), the more you learn- and the faster you learn, > > > > the faster you will climb the ladder. As far as getting the > > > > experience and > > > > applied knowledge they just take time. > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: william taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 2:42 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: certification advice > > > > > > > > > > > > i am a beginner in security, and i am going to be starting on my A+ > > > > certification course pretty soon. i had a question regarding your > > > > talk of "experience" and "applied knowledge." how exactly does a > > > > person GET this experience and applied knowledge? is it from a job > > > > (in which case, how do you get the job without experience)? or is > > > > it from being an "apprentice," if you will (in which case, how do > > > > you become an apprentice)? i am still in > > > > > > > > high school, and so i was just wondering which path to take, how to > > > > get there, etc... anyone with any imput would be a great help > > > > > > > > charles > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> > > > > > > iQA/AwUBPHPa/+NpgK+KgsrYEQKm3gCgt58bLFxmtHiuJ+0u1qZ3wbWNJQoAoMOj > > > 8SzBX/lGhaybDgb3maLJM4sj > > > =A0Uf > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
