What you received is the reason why I will not post a serious question to the list. The list has fallen into one of opinion not fact. So folks, as SKP gets more and more frustrated, and stops using the list for serious business, maybe it has become time for us to get back to business. Just my .005 worth.
Greg Kane SAIC Senior Systems Security Engineer CTSF-IA Fort Hood, TX -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 6:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Firewall configuration statistics That makes absolutely no sense. Plus I am not looking for a philosophical answer. I was looking statistics for marketing. Does anyone know of a good reference site for firewall and other security statistics. SKP -----Original Message----- From: Justin Pryzby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 6:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Firewall configuration statistics Security, 100% of firewalls are misconfigured. I guarantee that no firewall administrator has considered all of the posibilities that are out there. Moreover, there are guaranteed bugs in the firewalling software itself. No firewalls are misconfigured. Computers do what they are told, and the occasion cosmic ray bitflip is insignificant compared to human error. FW admins who use broken software or write bad FW policies deserve to suffer the consequences. Take your pick. As a user, I think all firewalls suck because at best they are another layer for things to get f()'d up, and at worst they prevent me from doing stuff. As an admin, I know of no more problems in my current firewall configuration (-j DENY), but let me check. Unless you elaborate on whichever number you quote, it is meaningless. Anyone who has ever deal with a firewall will know that. You will, however, impress 99% of everone with a cool word like ''firewall''. Justin On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 12:42:26AM +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I remember once reading that X amount of firewall's are misconfigured. Does > anyone know where I can get this statistic from? We are making some new > marketing material and I would like to include this stat in it. A quotable > source would be great. > > Thanks > > SKP > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- Evaluating SSL VPNs' Consider NEOTERIS, chosen as leader by top analysts! The Gartner Group just put Neoteris in the top of its Magic Quadrant, while InStat has confirmed Neoteris as the leader in marketshare. Find out why, and see how you can get plug-n-play secure remote access in about an hour, with no client, server changes, or ongoing maintenance. Visit us at: http://www.neoteris.com/promos/sf-6-9.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Evaluating SSL VPNs' Consider NEOTERIS, chosen as leader by top analysts! The Gartner Group just put Neoteris in the top of its Magic Quadrant, while InStat has confirmed Neoteris as the leader in marketshare. Find out why, and see how you can get plug-n-play secure remote access in about an hour, with no client, server changes, or ongoing maintenance. Visit us at: http://www.neoteris.com/promos/sf-6-9.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------------