What you received is the reason why I will not post a serious question
to the list. The list has fallen into one of opinion not fact. So folks,
as SKP gets more and more frustrated, and stops using the list for
serious business, maybe it has become time for us to get back to
business. Just my .005 worth.

Greg Kane
SAIC
Senior Systems Security Engineer
CTSF-IA
Fort Hood, TX

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 6:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Firewall configuration statistics

That makes absolutely no sense. Plus I am not looking for a
philosophical
answer. I was looking statistics for marketing. Does anyone know of a
good
reference site for firewall and other security statistics.

SKP

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Pryzby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 6:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Firewall configuration statistics


Security,

100% of firewalls are misconfigured.  I guarantee that no firewall
administrator has considered all of the posibilities that are out there.
Moreover, there are guaranteed bugs in the firewalling software itself.

No firewalls are misconfigured.  Computers do what they are told, and
the occasion cosmic ray bitflip is insignificant compared to human
error.  FW admins who use broken software or write bad FW policies
deserve to suffer the consequences.

Take your pick.  As a user, I think all firewalls suck because at best
they are another layer for things to get f()'d up, and at worst they
prevent me from doing stuff.  As an admin, I know of no more problems in
my current firewall configuration (-j DENY), but let me check.

Unless you elaborate on whichever number you quote, it is meaningless.
Anyone who has ever deal with a firewall will know that.  You will,
however, impress 99% of everone with a cool word like ''firewall''.

Justin


On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 12:42:26AM +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I remember once reading that X amount of firewall's are misconfigured.
Does
> anyone know where I can get this statistic from? We are making some
new
> marketing material and I would like to include this stat in it. A
quotable
> source would be great.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> SKP
> 
>
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