Well, seeing as I just received duplicates of last months mail, I guess I may as well respond.
My intent in giving SKP two opposite and conflicting statistics is to reveal the meaningless nature of the question. Whether marketing material says 2% of firewalls are misconfigured or 98% are doesn't matter. It is a matter of opinion, and I have given SKP my own meaningless authority to state whatever he wants. I hope I have also given him the motivation to realize that what he wants is an arbitrary number to feed to people; I want him to get neither satisfaction nor sales from publishing whatever number he decides to use. Justin On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 04:48:02PM +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Thank you Greg. I totally agree. If people would just answer questions based > on real life experience and knowledge and leave the philosophy to the > politicians I think everyone in this group will be happy. > > > -SKP > > -----Original Message----- > From: NC Agent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:01 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Firewall configuration statistics > > > What you received is the reason why I will not post a serious question > to the list. The list has fallen into one of opinion not fact. So folks, > as SKP gets more and more frustrated, and stops using the list for > serious business, maybe it has become time for us to get back to > business. Just my .005 worth. > > Greg Kane > SAIC > Senior Systems Security Engineer > CTSF-IA > Fort Hood, TX > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 6:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Firewall configuration statistics > > That makes absolutely no sense. Plus I am not looking for a > philosophical > answer. I was looking statistics for marketing. Does anyone know of a > good > reference site for firewall and other security statistics. > > SKP > > -----Original Message----- > From: Justin Pryzby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 6:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Firewall configuration statistics > > > Security, > > 100% of firewalls are misconfigured. I guarantee that no firewall > administrator has considered all of the posibilities that are out there. > Moreover, there are guaranteed bugs in the firewalling software itself. > > No firewalls are misconfigured. Computers do what they are told, and > the occasion cosmic ray bitflip is insignificant compared to human > error. FW admins who use broken software or write bad FW policies > deserve to suffer the consequences. > > Take your pick. As a user, I think all firewalls suck because at best > they are another layer for things to get f()'d up, and at worst they > prevent me from doing stuff. As an admin, I know of no more problems in > my current firewall configuration (-j DENY), but let me check. > > Unless you elaborate on whichever number you quote, it is meaningless. > Anyone who has ever deal with a firewall will know that. You will, > however, impress 99% of everone with a cool word like ''firewall''. > > Justin > > > On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 12:42:26AM +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I remember once reading that X amount of firewall's are misconfigured. > Does > > anyone know where I can get this statistic from? We are making some > new > > marketing material and I would like to include this stat in it. 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