I think his response made perfect sense. If I have a firewall, and I configure it to block only 666/tcp cause I want to block the backdoor trojans that use that port, is it misconfigured or not? You could argue that it is poorly configured, and probably that it is a waste of time and money, but is it misconfigured?

I would, however, disagree with the statement 100% of firewalls are misconfigured.

Whatever number you find will already be marketing fluff that likely has no scientific basis. It likely will be some scary looking number made up by someone else who also offers managed solutions.

So, sorry, I don't know where you can find that number. Just think of what has been said when you do "find" it. Did/would they classify my example above as misconfigured? You would never know.

Brian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That makes absolutely no sense. Plus I am not looking for a philosophical
answer. I was looking statistics for marketing. Does anyone know of a good
reference site for firewall and other security statistics.

SKP

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Pryzby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 6:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Firewall configuration statistics



Security,


100% of firewalls are misconfigured.  I guarantee that no firewall
administrator has considered all of the posibilities that are out there.
Moreover, there are guaranteed bugs in the firewalling software itself.

No firewalls are misconfigured.  Computers do what they are told, and
the occasion cosmic ray bitflip is insignificant compared to human
error.  FW admins who use broken software or write bad FW policies
deserve to suffer the consequences.

Take your pick.  As a user, I think all firewalls suck because at best
they are another layer for things to get f()'d up, and at worst they
prevent me from doing stuff.  As an admin, I know of no more problems in
my current firewall configuration (-j DENY), but let me check.

Unless you elaborate on whichever number you quote, it is meaningless.
Anyone who has ever deal with a firewall will know that.  You will,
however, impress 99% of everone with a cool word like ''firewall''.

Justin


On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 12:42:26AM +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I remember once reading that X amount of firewall's are misconfigured.

Does


anyone know where I can get this statistic from? We are making some new
marketing material and I would like to include this stat in it. A quotable
source would be great.

Thanks

SKP



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