On Dienstag, 24. Juni 2008, Markus Krötzsch wrote: > On Montag, 23. Juni 2008, Sergey Chernyshev wrote: > > Markus, > > > > Great, I think it's quite useful for all people-oriented wikis. I tried > > to get AIFBs cards into my Outlook, but it only loaded one card with AIFB > > as name and ignored the rest.
Some minor updates: > > Of course, with different address book tools, your mileage may vary ... I > have also heard that Outlook does not support files with more than one > vCard entry. I fear there is nothing we can do (other than change the tool > or file a feature request with the tool vendor). Mac's Apple Address Book > and KDE's Kontact have had no problems with importing many people from one > file. I would like to learn about further experiences with other tools. Mozilla Thunderbird also appears to work properly. > > Another issue currently is that the vCards do have a full name (the one > used for display), but empty entries for first and last name (since we do > not have those in the wiki). Some tools may prefer if we would leave the > empty entries away completely. I have updated the code to "guess" first and last names if none are given. The data as such is mandatory for vCard 3.0, so we cannot omit the name parts if not available. -- Markus > > > In any case, it looks like many people realize that moving towards > > structured data should be on both RDF and non-RDF directions. > > Yes, certainly. RDF is a general purpose data format, while special > purposes have more specific formats. Once you have semantics, you can > easily use many syntactic forms as needed. > > > So I want to raise a question regarding various other ways to express > > data on SMW instance. We already talked about RDFa - not with vCard comes > > a question about Microformats, e.g. hCard, hCalendar and so on. > > Microformats and RDFa usually want to be embedded into (X)HTML, while our > current exports are all links to download files. Embedding would require > some more (e.g. you could not use hCard µ-Format without having all the > contact data being really present in the wiki page). > > > Our Semantic Ready Validator tests for various kinds of structured data > > including Microformats - it's be great if we can have check mark next to > > Microformats on AIFB page: > > http://www.semanticready.com/are_you_ready?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsemanticweb.o > >rg %2Fwiki%2FAIFB > > Interesting tool. So being most "ready" means to have all possible export > formats on one page? ;-) > > > What do you think it might involve? Should we integrate it into SMW or > > use some other extensions on presentation layer to assign rels and > > classes to divs and spans? > > Well, if it seems useful and feasible to you, then we can try to support > that. We generally aim at having all formatting extensions as modular as > possible. For example, iCalendar and vCard are just single files that > create all the output, and which could be left away to get a smaller SMW > distribution. More types of query formats can be added along this > architecture easily (e.g. CSV, RDF or JSON). > > One would need to think about the process for getting microformats/RDFa > into a wiki page, so that it can also be so modular. > > > Markus > > > Sergey > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Markus Krötzsch < > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > SMW now has support for exporting data in vCard format, thus letting > > > you import contacts easily from a wiki into your personal address book. > > > This feature works similar to RSS and iCalendar exports: a special > > > format (vcard) > > > is used for semantic queries, and labels of printout statements are > > > used to describe how wiki properties should be used in the vCard > > > export. > > > > > > vCards should be especially useful in intranet wikis where a lot of > > > personal > > > data is found. Sites like semanticweb.org often have only little > > > personal information. Yet you can see examples there, e.g. at > > > http://semanticweb.org/wiki/AIFB as well as on any person's page. > > > > > > An example vCard query is as follows: > > > > > > {{#ask: [[{{FULLPAGENAME}}]] > > > > > > | format=vcard > > > | ?Affiliation=organization > > > | ?Email > > > | ?Foaf:phone=workphone > > > | ?Homepage > > > | searchlabel=vCard > > > > > > }} > > > > > > The labels (e.g. "email" or "organization") have a special predefined > > > relationship to vCard properties. SMW currently supports the following > > > labels: > > > > > > email > > > organization > > > homepage > > > workphone > > > homephone > > > cellphone > > > firstname > > > lastname > > > birthday (should by of Type:Date) > > > note (can be anything, the query results are combined with "," and > > > inserted > > > as free text) > > > > > > These map to standard vCard fields in the obvious way. More fields > > > could be enabled if requested. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Markus > > > > > > -- > > > Markus Krötzsch > > > Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org > > > http://korrekt.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Markus Krötzsch Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org http://korrekt.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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