Well, I am white and they insisted that a salesman ride with me when I
test-drove
a Sentra a decade ago.  Not all preferential treatment can be attributable
to race.
Maybe the guy had been in a number of times and they felt comfortable with
him.  Maybe
they even knew him.

Actually, Mike, there is a discrimination of sorts against Asians.  It's
just not as
clear-cut as you would expect.  If you look at the statistics related to the
chances
you have of making it into law school or med school as an Asian versus as a
black or
white person, you'll find that for a particular GPA you are MUCH less likely
to be
accepted than one of the other two groups.  I'll let you figure out which
one.

Dave

P.S.  Marcus, I am not saying racism doesn't exist.  I'm saying sometimes
there are reasons other than racism for preferential treatment.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 2:31 AM
To: Sentra Mailing List
Subject: Re: SML-NON-P: Nissan being sued for overchargine Blacks....


In a message dated 7/10/01 5:23:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Personally I hate when race comes into issues.  Being a
 minority, I don't think I am discriminated against very
 much wherever I go in this country.
 
 That doesn't mean that it does not happen to anyone,
 just I hate when it is used to make a situation ugly.
 
 If the lawsuit was Nissan discriminates against poor
 people, then it would probably easily be explained
 away by saying the obvious, poor people are a higher
 credit risk.
 
 By bringing a racial overtone to it, the lawyer now
 has a case unfortunately.
 
 Mike >>

Well, Mike unfortunately these things go on. I do realize that many times 
race can be used as a scapegoat, but don't hide your head in the sand. Only 
when everyone faces what is wrong can things be corrected. I love Nissan as 
much as the first person but bought mine used from someone. I am one of
those 
black minorities that Nissan discriminated against. I initially wanted a 
Maxima. The first lot would not let me test drive the car without a salesman

in the car. That was right after the white man left to test drive a 300Z The

credit excuse does not hold water, they never asked what I did. I left as I 
was not being treated the same. I went to another dealer in town and after 
giving me a run around with salesmen supposedly running back and forth to
the 
manager, they gave me some ridiculous price. He then said if I couldn't 
afford it, I should try something less expensive. So again I left and went
to 
the Mazda dealership where they gave me the keys to there brand new on the 
lot at that time Millenia to test drive. No hassles, no games just gave me 
the keys. I then bought that car that day. Now I am a veterinarian, black
and 
can afford any car that Nissan produces. If it happened to me twice in one 
day at two different establishments, then it is very easy to believe in the 
law suit as a positive thing if practices change. This occurs all the time
on 
all kinds of fronts. You can't be paralyzed by the occurrence, but
understand 
it and squash it where you can. Oh yeah I do find it weird that this has 
never happened to me at a premium line. Hell we bought the Infinite QX4 
without a hitch.

Marcus


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