Danny Angus wrote:
>
>
> As I'm being quoted please read my comment at the bottom...
>
> On 1/2/07, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > > I see all of the work here, and Norman explained on Skype
> what he and
> > > Stefano are doing, but this is not the way that we
> develop code.  Please
> > > correct me if I am wrong, but I do not see a single
> message, much less a
> > > discussion, of the ideas, plans, etc., for this code.
> ...
>
> > On 28/10/2006 Danny said about the
> "sandbox/mailet-refactorings" branch:
> > ------
> >  > Compromise my ass, this is my sandbox fork Muahahahh ! ;-)
> >  > What I mean is, this project doesn't have to achieve
> consensus itself,
> >  > as long as it helps us to understand what the underlying
> problems are
> >  > which have resulted in no agreement for such a long time.
> >  > After this fork is all done we won't have Mailet v3,
> we'll have a plan
> >  > for Mailet v3, which might well include decisions which
> still need to
> >  > be bottomed out.
> >  >
> >  > d.
> > ------
> > I replied to him
> > -----
> >  > ++1 You know I'm a fan of "code based proposals".
> >  > I just put a "beware the DI fanatics" and a "beware the
> JNDI haters"
> >  > signs near your sandbox :-P
> > -----
> >
> > I worked on that sandbox with that spirit. Work toward something
> > concrete to propose. If you have "signs" to put near this
> sandbox I will
> > be really happy to read them.
> >
> > I preferred to avoid discussing the technical thing too
> much on the list
> > because I had no idea of what I would have done there.
>
> I believe that proposals thrashed out in the sandbox area are good,
> and can go places where we wouldn't want James to go, they can ask
> more questions than they answer.
>
> But... this project does still exist through the mailing lists, and
> experiments in the sandbox don't really mean much unless they at least
> start or end in discussions on the list.
>
> I'm 100% in favour of people demonstrating and experimenting in the
> sandbox, but please remember that the purpose is to illustrate or
> provoke discussions on the list.
>
> d.

Which the guys have done in an admirable way today, also taking Robert's
idea onboard of using a prefix [handlerapi-experiment]. All great to see and
much appreciated.

Cheers

-- Steve


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