On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
>
> > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:51 AM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >  IMHO there is no shame in releasing code marked as unstable
> together
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > with
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > stable code. We introduced modules also for this, didn't we?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > yes but IMHO that's not an opinion shared by the majority of those
> > > > with binding VOTEs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >  O
> > >  We all know that I'm not good understanding what people thinks,
> expecially
> > > the PMC members but, excluding Noel, I think I never read other comments
> > > about trunk being crap or anything else that led me thought that we had
> to
> > > remove imap in order to try to release from there.
> > >
> >
> > no one seems to have a practical interest in releasing trunk. until
> > someone steps up. trunk will not be released.
> >
>
>  This make sense, BUT, who will be interested in releasing trunk after IMAP
> is removed?

who's interested in releasing IMAP? not me, for one. i can live very
happily enough without any releases for the forseeable future.
releases attract users, not developers.

IMAP is orthogonal to the community issues surrounding trunk. IMAP is
not tightly coupled to the rest of JAMES. if the community issues
remain unresolved when IMAP is ready for release, the easiest approach
would be to backport to a uncontroversial version.

the only way that trunk is going to get released is if someone steps forward

i think that the lack of releases is unhealthy for the community. i
also understand that many developers feel frustrated. i see no reasons
why JAMES couldn't release a couple of components a month for the next
year or so provided that the people who want more releases step
forward.

- robert

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