Did you already tried a stop/start of James to see if those numbers change?

Thx, Eric

On 19/02/2013 12:33, Farooq Ahmed wrote:
Hi Eric,

The QueueSize is 2 in mbean Destination=outgoing,Type=Queue(ActiveMQ) and
Size is also 2 in name=queue,queue=outgoing,type=component (james)

The only logical relation that i can see between ActiveMQ and James is the
outgoing queue size in both is 2. Where as there are no messages in List
returned by james bean and ActiveMQ bean shows one message in queue.

we have'nt done any changes in ActiveMQ, but we have changed configuration
files of james for spams, fakeipaddress, baeysian algorithm and we dont
store copy of sent mails.

Regards,
Farooq

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Eric Charles <e...@apache.org> wrote:

Hi Farooq,

Looking at Destination=outgoing,Type=**Queue, the
EnqueueCount/DequeueCount/**QueueSize seem odd (14976 - 14975 <> 2).

Can you link/find some logic between those ActiveMQ numbers and the
numbers shown in the James MBeans?

Do you run with the embedded ActiveMQ shipped by default? Any changes in
the configuration?

Thx, Eric


On 19/02/2013 11:44, Farooq Ahmed wrote:

Hi Eric,

Here you go..
         Attributes Value
BeanName        ConsumerCount
         ProducerCount   QueueSize       DequeueCount    EnqueueCount
  browse
Destination=ActiveMQ.DLQ,Type=**Queue     0       0       1       0
   0       Shows 1 message in
outgoing queue,
invalid recepient
Destination=outgoing,Type=**Queue         10      5       2       14976
   14975   shows 1 message
in outgoing queue,the one which we sends after every 30 sec
Destination=spool,Type=Queue    2       3       0       15146   15146
no emails
Destination=ActiveMQ.Advisory.**TempQueue,Type=Topic      1       0
   0       0       146     no
emails
Destination=ActiveMQ.Advisory.**Queue,Type=Topic  0       0       0
   0       6       no emails
Destination=ActiveMQ.Advisory.**Producer.Queue.spool,Type=**Topic   0
0       0       0       3       no emails
Destination=ActiveMQ.Advisory.**Producer.Queue.outgoing,Type=**Topic
0       0       0       0       5       no emails
Destination=ActiveMQ.Advisory.**Consumer.Queue.spool,Type=**Topic   0
0       0       0       253212  no emails
Destination=ActiveMQ.Advisory.**Consumer.Queue.outgoing,Type=**Topic
0       0       0       0       1232626         no emails
Destination=ActiveMQ.Advisory.**Connection,Type=Topic     0       0
   0       0       1       no
emails



Now I can see the mail stuck in outgoing queue, the one which we send
every 30 sec..

Regards,
Farooq


On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Eric Charles <e...@apache.org
<mailto:e...@apache.org>> wrote:

     Hi,
     All, except the first and the last ones.
     Thx, Eric


     On 19/02/2013 10:57, Farooq Ahmed wrote:

         Hi Eric,

         Which mbean of activemq would you like me to check from the
         following ...
         org.apache.activemq:__**BrokerName=james,__**
ConnectorName=tcp_//localhost_**__0,Type=Connector
         org.apache.activemq:__**BrokerName=james,Destination=_**
_ActiveMQ.Advisory.Connection,**__Type=Topic
         org.apache.activemq:__**BrokerName=james,Destination=_**
_ActiveMQ.Advisory.Consumer.__**Queue.outgoing,Type=Topic
         org.apache.activemq:__**BrokerName=james,Destination=_**
_ActiveMQ.Advisory.Consumer.__**Queue.spool,Type=Topic
         org.apache.activemq:__**BrokerName=james,Destination=_**
_ActiveMQ.Advisory.Producer.__**Queue.outgoing,Type=Topic
         org.apache.activemq:__**BrokerName=james,Destination=_**
_ActiveMQ.Advisory.Producer.__**Queue.spool,Type=Topic
         org.apache.activemq:__**BrokerName=james,Destination=_**
_ActiveMQ.Advisory.Queue,Type=**__Topic
         org.apache.activemq:__**BrokerName=james,Destination=_**
_ActiveMQ.Advisory.TempQueue,_**_Type=Topic
         org.apache.activemq:__**BrokerName=james,Destination=_**
_ActiveMQ.DLQ,Type=Queue
         org.apache.activemq:__**BrokerName=james,Destination=_**
_outgoing,Type=Queue
         org.apache.activemq:__**BrokerName=james,Destination=_**
_spool,Type=Queue
         org.apache.activemq:__**BrokerName=james,Type=Broker


         Regards,
         Farooq

         On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Eric Charles <e...@apache.org
         <mailto:e...@apache.org>> wrote:

             Any chance to compare those numbers with the ones given by
             the activemq
             mbeans?

             Thx, Eric


             On 19/02/2013 10:42, Farooq Ahmed wrote:

                 Hi Eric,

                 i have used jmxterm-1.0-alpha-4-uber jmx cli,

                 "You mean to 'push out' the queue.
                 The mail you send triggers the pending mails to go out?"

                 Yes this new mail push the earlier mail out but itself
                 gets stuck in
                 spool,to which a new mail after 30 sec pushes out and
                 that mail gets
                 struck
                 and soon...

                 Can you guide me how to figure out the reason as to why
                 the size attribute
                 value is 5 and the browse List only contains 3 mails
                 details.
                 Also Why The mail which gets stuck in spool its count is
                 incremented in
                 attribure Size but its details are not present in browse
                 List..?

                 Regards,
                 Farooq

                 On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Eric Charles
                 <e...@apache.org <mailto:e...@apache.org>> wrote:

                    Hi Farooq,



                     On 18/02/2013 12:39, Farooq Ahmed wrote:

                        Hi Eric,


                         Here is the output which i get when i use Bean
                         org.apache.james:name=queue,****
__**queue=outgoing,type=__**component

                         $>bean
                         org.apache.james:name=queue,****
__**queue=outgoing,type=__**component


                         #bean is set to org.apache.james:name=queue,**
                         queue=outgoing,type=component
                         $>info
                         #mbean =
                         org.apache.james:name=queue,****
__**queue=outgoing,type=__**component
                         #class name =
                         org.apache.james.queue.****__**
library.MailQueueManagement



                         # attributes
                               %0   - Size (long, r)
                         # operations
                               %0   - java.util.List browse()
                               %1   - long clear()
                               %2   - long flush()
                               %3   - long
                         removeWithName(java.lang.****_**_String p1)
                               %4   - long
                         removeWithRecipient(java.lang.**__****String p1)
                               %5   - long
                         removeWithSender(java.lang.*****__*String p1)



                         #there's no notifications
                         $>get Size
                         #mbean =
                         org.apache.james:name=queue,****
__**queue=outgoing,type=__**component:

                         Size = 7;


                     Cool, it seems like you have found a JXM CLI which
                     works fine.
                     Which one is it?



                        Let me know if you need any further details.

                         can you educate me as to Size= 7 is the no of
                         mails still in outgoing
                         spool
                         or is some default size of outgoing queue.


                            It is the number of pending mails in the queue.

                     So you have 7 mails waiting to be sent to the
                     outside world/


                         Also note that do deal with this spooling
                     problem, the workaround that
                     we

                         did temporarily is that we created an
                         application that sends an email to
                         some email address every 30 sec.


                     You mean to 'push out' the queue.
                     The mail you send triggers the pending mails to go
out?

                     Thx, Eric



                        Regards,

                         Farooq

                         On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Eric Charles
                         <e...@apache.org <mailto:e...@apache.org>> wrote:

                             Hi,


                             Maybe the cloud's firewall blocks your
requests.

                             For JMX command line, type 'jmx cli' in
                             google and experiment (tried
                             one
                             of these long time ago).

                             Thx, Eric


                             On 18/02/2013 10:11, Farooq Ahmed wrote:

                                 Hi Eric,


                                 I tried remotely connecting to JMX using
                                 Jconsole and remote jmx
                                 connection
                                 method specified on
                                 http://james.apache.org/****
                                 server/3/config-system.html<__**ht**tp://
james.apache.org/****
                                 <http://james.apache.org/****>
                                 server/3/config-system.html<**ht__tp://
james.apache.org/**__**server/3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/**__server/3/config-system.html>
                                 <http://james.apache.org/****
server/3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/**server/3/config-system.html>



                                 <ht**tp://james.apache.org/**_**
_server/**3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/**__server/**3/config-system.html>
                                 <http://james.apache.org/****
server/**3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/**server/**3/config-system.html>
**<__http://james.apache.org/__**server/**3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/__server/**3/config-system.html>
                                 <http://james.apache.org/**
server/**3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/server/**3/config-system.html>
**>
                                 <**http://james.apache.org/**_**
_server/3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/**__server/3/config-system.html>
                                 <http://james.apache.org/****
server/3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/**server/3/config-system.html>
<**ht__tp://james.apache.org/**server/__3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/server/__3/config-system.html>

                                 <http://james.apache.org/**
server/3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/server/3/config-system.html>






                                 But i could not get connected to jmx on
                                 my email server.

                                 Note that the server where i have
                                 deployed james is on azure cloud PAS
                                 network and is Ubunto system.
                                 Is there any mechanism where i can
                                 observe the message queue contents
                                 on
                                 local ubunto system using ssh only.

                                 Regards,
                                 Farooq

                                 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Ajay
                                 Navgale <
                                 ajay.navg...@centralogic.net
                                 
<mailto:ajay.navgale@**centralogic.net<ajay.navg...@centralogic.net>



                                     wrote:





                                    ---------- Forwarded message ----------

                                     From: Eric Charles <e...@apache.org
                                     <mailto:e...@apache.org>>

                                     Date: Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:52 PM
                                     Subject: Re: James Server SMTP
                                     Spooling Issue
                                     To: James Users List
                                     <server-user@james.apache.org
                                     <mailto:server-user@james.**
apache.org <server-user@james.apache.org>>>



                                     Hi,
                                     You mean you the newly spooled mails
                                     'push-out' the remaining ones.
                                     After that, the latest one remains
                                     stucked in the queu?

                                     If such, that's very strange and we
                                     never saw that before.
                                     Do you use JMX to inspect the queue
                                     content/size?

                                     Thx, Eric


                                     On 12/02/2013 11:45, Ajay Navgale
wrote:

                                          Hi,


                                         We are using james 3.0 beta4.
                                         We have an issue while sending
                                         an email. There is always one
                                         outgoing
                                         mail
                                         left in spool and is delivered
                                         when any new outgoing mail is to
be
                                         sent.
                                         Now previous mail gets delivered
                                         and this recent once sits in the
                                         spool.
                                         This is happening for Remote
                                         delivery.

                                         Can anyone throw some light on
this.

                                         Thanks & Regards,
                                         Ajay



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