Re: James Server SMTP Spooling Issue

Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:23:30 -0800 

Hi Farooq,

Unfortunately, I can not reproduce it.
Any chance for you to write a Java unit test that shows this?
Thx, Eric

On 25/02/2013 05:25, Farooq Ahmed wrote:

Hi Eric,

Any further info on this, this issue is still unresolved..

Regards,
Farooq

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Farooq Ahmed
<farooq.ah...@centralogic.net>wrote:


We do use to restart the system after that the spooled mails are delivered
and after restart first mail is sent out with out getting stuck in outgoing
queue but from second mail onwards one mail always keeps stuck in outgoing
queue.

Regards,
Farooq


On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Eric Charles <e...@apache.org> wrote:


Did you already tried a stop/start of James to see if those numbers
change?

Thx, Eric


On 19/02/2013 12:33, Farooq Ahmed wrote:


Hi Eric,

The QueueSize is 2 in mbean Destination=outgoing,Type=**Queue(ActiveMQ)
and
Size is also 2 in name=queue,queue=outgoing,**type=component (james)

The only logical relation that i can see between ActiveMQ and James is
the
outgoing queue size in both is 2. Where as there are no messages in List
returned by james bean and ActiveMQ bean shows one message in queue.

we have'nt done any changes in ActiveMQ, but we have changed
configuration
files of james for spams, fakeipaddress, baeysian algorithm and we dont
store copy of sent mails.

Regards,
Farooq

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Eric Charles <e...@apache.org> wrote:

  Hi Farooq,


Looking at Destination=outgoing,Type=****Queue, the
EnqueueCount/DequeueCount/****QueueSize seem odd (14976 - 14975 <> 2).


Can you link/find some logic between those ActiveMQ numbers and the
numbers shown in the James MBeans?

Do you run with the embedded ActiveMQ shipped by default? Any changes in
the configuration?

Thx, Eric


On 19/02/2013 11:44, Farooq Ahmed wrote:

  Hi Eric,


Here you go..
          Attributes Value
BeanName        ConsumerCount
          ProducerCount   QueueSize       DequeueCount    EnqueueCount
   browse
Destination=ActiveMQ.DLQ,Type=****Queue     0       0       1       0

    0       Shows 1 message in
outgoing queue,
invalid recepient
Destination=outgoing,Type=****Queue         10      5       2
14976

    14975   shows 1 message
in outgoing queue,the one which we sends after every 30 sec
Destination=spool,Type=Queue    2       3       0       15146   15146
no emails
Destination=ActiveMQ.Advisory.****TempQueue,Type=Topic      1       0

    0       0       146     no
emails
Destination=ActiveMQ.Advisory.****Queue,Type=Topic  0       0       0
    0       6       no emails
Destination=ActiveMQ.Advisory.****Producer.Queue.spool,Type=****Topic
   0

0       0       0       3       no emails
Destination=ActiveMQ.Advisory.****Producer.Queue.outgoing,**
Type=**Topic

0       0       0       0       5       no emails
Destination=ActiveMQ.Advisory.****Consumer.Queue.spool,Type=****Topic
   0

0       0       0       253212  no emails
Destination=ActiveMQ.Advisory.****Consumer.Queue.outgoing,**
Type=**Topic

0       0       0       0       1232626         no emails
Destination=ActiveMQ.Advisory.****Connection,Type=Topic     0       0

    0       0       1       no
emails



Now I can see the mail stuck in outgoing queue, the one which we send
every 30 sec..

Regards,
Farooq


On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Eric Charles <e...@apache.org
<mailto:e...@apache.org>> wrote:

      Hi,
      All, except the first and the last ones.
      Thx, Eric


      On 19/02/2013 10:57, Farooq Ahmed wrote:

          Hi Eric,

          Which mbean of activemq would you like me to check from the
          following ...
          org.apache.activemq:__****BrokerName=james,__**
ConnectorName=tcp_//localhost_****__0,Type=Connector
          org.apache.activemq:__****BrokerName=james,Destination=_****
_ActiveMQ.Advisory.Connection,****__Type=Topic
          org.apache.activemq:__****BrokerName=james,Destination=_****
_ActiveMQ.Advisory.Consumer.__****Queue.outgoing,Type=Topic
          org.apache.activemq:__****BrokerName=james,Destination=_****
_ActiveMQ.Advisory.Consumer.__****Queue.spool,Type=Topic
          org.apache.activemq:__****BrokerName=james,Destination=_****
_ActiveMQ.Advisory.Producer.__****Queue.outgoing,Type=Topic
          org.apache.activemq:__****BrokerName=james,Destination=_****
_ActiveMQ.Advisory.Producer.__****Queue.spool,Type=Topic
          org.apache.activemq:__****BrokerName=james,Destination=_****
_ActiveMQ.Advisory.Queue,Type=****__Topic
          org.apache.activemq:__****BrokerName=james,Destination=_****
_ActiveMQ.Advisory.TempQueue,_****_Type=Topic
          org.apache.activemq:__****BrokerName=james,Destination=_****
_ActiveMQ.DLQ,Type=Queue
          org.apache.activemq:__****BrokerName=james,Destination=_****
_outgoing,Type=Queue
          org.apache.activemq:__****BrokerName=james,Destination=_****
_spool,Type=Queue
          org.apache.activemq:__****BrokerName=james,Type=Broker



          Regards,
          Farooq

          On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Eric Charles <
e...@apache.org
          <mailto:e...@apache.org>> wrote:

              Any chance to compare those numbers with the ones given by
              the activemq
              mbeans?

              Thx, Eric


              On 19/02/2013 10:42, Farooq Ahmed wrote:

                  Hi Eric,

                  i have used jmxterm-1.0-alpha-4-uber jmx cli,

                  "You mean to 'push out' the queue.
                  The mail you send triggers the pending mails to go
out?"

                  Yes this new mail push the earlier mail out but itself
                  gets stuck in
                  spool,to which a new mail after 30 sec pushes out and
                  that mail gets
                  struck
                  and soon...

                  Can you guide me how to figure out the reason as to
why
                  the size attribute
                  value is 5 and the browse List only contains 3 mails
                  details.
                  Also Why The mail which gets stuck in spool its count
is
                  incremented in
                  attribure Size but its details are not present in
browse
                  List..?

                  Regards,
                  Farooq

                  On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Eric Charles
                  <e...@apache.org <mailto:e...@apache.org>> wrote:

                     Hi Farooq,



                      On 18/02/2013 12:39, Farooq Ahmed wrote:

                         Hi Eric,


                          Here is the output which i get when i use Bean
                          org.apache.james:name=queue,******
__**queue=outgoing,type=__****component

                          $>bean
                          org.apache.james:name=queue,******
__**queue=outgoing,type=__****component



                          #bean is set to org.apache.james:name=queue,**
                          queue=outgoing,type=component
                          $>info
                          #mbean =
                          org.apache.james:name=queue,******
__**queue=outgoing,type=__****component
                          #class name =
                          org.apache.james.queue.****__****

library.MailQueueManagement



                          # attributes
                                %0   - Size (long, r)
                          # operations
                                %0   - java.util.List browse()
                                %1   - long clear()
                                %2   - long flush()
                                %3   - long
                          removeWithName(java.lang.****_****_String p1)
                                %4   - long
                          removeWithRecipient(java.lang.****__****String
p1)
                                %5   - long
                          removeWithSender(java.lang.*******__*String
p1)




                          #there's no notifications
                          $>get Size
                          #mbean =
                          org.apache.james:name=queue,******
__**queue=outgoing,type=__****component:


                          Size = 7;


                      Cool, it seems like you have found a JXM CLI which
                      works fine.
                      Which one is it?



                         Let me know if you need any further details.

                          can you educate me as to Size= 7 is the no of
                          mails still in outgoing
                          spool
                          or is some default size of outgoing queue.


                             It is the number of pending mails in the
queue.

                      So you have 7 mails waiting to be sent to the
                      outside world/


                          Also note that do deal with this spooling
                      problem, the workaround that
                      we

                          did temporarily is that we created an
                          application that sends an email to
                          some email address every 30 sec.


                      You mean to 'push out' the queue.
                      The mail you send triggers the pending mails to go
out?

                      Thx, Eric



                         Regards,

                          Farooq

                          On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Eric Charles
                          <e...@apache.org <mailto:e...@apache.org>>
wrote:

                              Hi,


                              Maybe the cloud's firewall blocks your
requests.

                              For JMX command line, type 'jmx cli' in
                              google and experiment (tried
                              one
                              of these long time ago).

                              Thx, Eric


                              On 18/02/2013 10:11, Farooq Ahmed wrote:

                                  Hi Eric,


                                  I tried remotely connecting to JMX
using
                                  Jconsole and remote jmx
                                  connection
                                  method specified on
                                  http://james.apache.org/****
                                  server/3/config-system.html<__**
**ht**tp://
james.apache.org/****
                                  <http://james.apache.org/****>
                                  server/3/config-system.html<****
ht__tp://
james.apache.org/**__**server/**3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/**__**server/3/config-system.html>
<http://**james.apache.org/**__server/3/**config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/**__server/3/config-system.html>



                                  <http://james.apache.org/****
server/3/config-system.html<ht**tp://james.apache.org/****
server/3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/**server/3/config-system.html>










                                  
<ht**tp://james.apache.org/**_****<http://james.apache.org/**_**>
_server/**3/config-system.**html<http://james.apache.org/***
*__server/**3/config-system.**html<http://james.apache.org/**__server/**3/config-system.html>



                                  <http://james.apache.org/****
server/**3/config-system.html<**http://james.apache.org/****
server/**3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/**server/**3/config-system.html>





**<__http://james.apache.org/_**_**server/**3/config-system.**html<http://james.apache.org/__**server/**3/config-system.html>
<http://james.apache.org/_**_server/**3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/__server/**3/config-system.html>
**>


                                  <http://james.apache.org/**
server/**3/config-system.html<**http://james.apache.org/**
server/**3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/server/**3/config-system.html>





**>


                                  
<**http://james.apache.org/**_****<http://james.apache.org/**_**>
_server/3/config-system.html<h**ttp://james.apache.org/**__**
server/3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/**__server/3/config-system.html>




                                  <http://james.apache.org/****
server/3/config-system.html<ht**tp://james.apache.org/****
server/3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/**server/3/config-system.html>





<**ht__tp://james.apache.org/****server/__3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/**server/__3/config-system.html>
**<http://james.apache.org/**server/__3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/server/__3/config-system.html>






                                  <http://james.apache.org/**
server/3/config-system.html<ht**tp://james.apache.org/server/**
3/config-system.html<http://james.apache.org/server/3/config-system.html>












                                  But i could not get connected to jmx
on
                                  my email server.

                                  Note that the server where i have
                                  deployed james is on azure cloud PAS
                                  network and is Ubunto system.
                                  Is there any mechanism where i can
                                  observe the message queue contents
                                  on
                                  local ubunto system using ssh only.

                                  Regards,
                                  Farooq

                                  On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Ajay
                                  Navgale <
                                  ajay.navg...@centralogic.net
                                  <mailto:ajay.navgale@**central**
ogic.net 
<http://centralogic.net><ajay.navgale@**centralogic.net<ajay.navg...@centralogic.net>









                                      wrote:





                                     ---------- Forwarded message
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                                      From: Eric Charles <
e...@apache.org
                                      <mailto:e...@apache.org>>

                                      Date: Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:52 PM
                                      Subject: Re: James Server SMTP
                                      Spooling Issue
                                      To: James Users List
                                      <server-user@james.apache.org
                                      <mailto:server-user@james.**
apache.org <server-user@james.apache.org>**>>




                                      Hi,
                                      You mean you the newly spooled
mails
                                      'push-out' the remaining ones.
                                      After that, the latest one remains
                                      stucked in the queu?

                                      If such, that's very strange and
we
                                      never saw that before.
                                      Do you use JMX to inspect the
queue
                                      content/size?

                                      Thx, Eric


                                      On 12/02/2013 11:45, Ajay Navgale
wrote:

                                           Hi,


                                          We are using james 3.0 beta4.
                                          We have an issue while sending
                                          an email. There is always one
                                          outgoing
                                          mail
                                          left in spool and is delivered
                                          when any new outgoing mail is
to
be
                                          sent.
                                          Now previous mail gets
delivered
                                          and this recent once sits in
the
                                          spool.
                                          This is happening for Remote
                                          delivery.

                                          Can anyone throw some light on
this.

                                          Thanks & Regards,
                                          Ajay



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