I had to split it into two PDFs, since there were some ads in the  
middle.

http://www.biske.com/eWeek021306.pdf
http://www.biske.com/eWeek021306.p2.pdf

-tb

On Feb 17, 2006, at 3:57 PM, JP Morgenthal wrote:

> eWeek has not posted this article online.  Does anyone have the  
> ability to
> scan and send to the rest of the group?  I may be able to, but not  
> until
> next week.
>
> JP
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of Eric
> Newcomer
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:42 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [service-orientated-architecture] eWeek Comparison of  
> SOA and
> Web 2.0
>
> I haven't seen the article either, although I believe this is the  
> one I was
> interviewed for.  If so, I hope my contribution seemed ok ;-)
>
> Based on the comments I've seen here it sure seems like someone has  
> mixed up
> architecture and technology.
>  I also am with Anne about this what the heck is Web 2.0 stuff - I  
> don't
> like the name but I suppose we are stuck with it...
>
> What I hope came through though is the need to connect the Web 2.0
> technologies to enterprise data sources using Web services.
>
> I have blogged a bit about this, but mostly within the overall  
> context of
> the need to standardize the software industry.  The Web 2.0 stuff  
> is a great
> illustration of the benefits of standardization, and to me it's a good
> illustration of the kind of thing the industry needs to achive in  
> enterprise
> software.
>
> The importance of standardization to productivity:
>
> http://www.iona.com/blogs/newcomer/archives/000255.html
>
> Solution through standardization:
>
> http://www.iona.com/blogs/newcomer/archives/000258.html
>
> How it all ties into Web 2.0:
>
> http://www.iona.com/blogs/newcomer/archives/000259.html
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> --- Todd Biske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> There's been a rash of articles on the Web 2.0 and SOA due to John
>> deVaDoss' (Microsoft)  recent comments.  While I just went to the
>> eWeek site and couldn't find the article, I know I saw that table  
>> that
>> you mentioned and I shook my head as well.  If I recall correctly,  
>> the
>> article kept flip-flopping on whether SOA and Web 2.0 were
>> complementary or not, and that table didn't help at all.
>>
>> It's a shame that the waters were muddied by that article, because I
>> actually think some of the discussion going on around SOA and Web 2.0
>> is very good.  I've been making some notes in prep for a blog entry,
>> but have had some other things to take care of, so it's still on the
>> back burner.  I've got strong roots on the user side of the world, so
>> tying SOA concepts back to areas where users have to interact with
>> systems is always interesting for me.
>>
>> -tb
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2006, at 3:56 PM, JP Morgenthal wrote:
>>
>>> Did anyone catch eWeek's horrible article on SOA
>> and Web 2.0 in the
>>> 2/13 issue?  Am I crazy or is this the stupidest
>> thing this
>>> publication ever printed?  Their chart comparing
>> SOA to Web 2.0 is
>>> downright asinine.  They actually listed the
>> communication
>>> mechanism for SOA as SOAP and Web 2.0 as REST.
>> Ummmm, when did
>>> SOAP become SOA-centric?  Or better yet, when did
>> SOA become SOAP-
>>> centric.
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