Thanks, Todd. Actually, I like that chart. Yes, some of the comparisons aren't exactly apples to oranges, but no more so than a bazillion of other articles and blog entries on the topic (e.g. comparison REST to SOAP).
I like that SOA is described as centralized control, which it is (witness the emphasis on registries), while Web 2.0 - being built around the Web - is largely decentralized. The scale seems about right too; SOA is "large" (enterprise) while Web 2.0 is "very large" (Internet). Also, Web 2.0 can absorb a faster rate of change because its architecture - largely RESTful - is more loosely coupled than SOA. I'd also note that you could substitute "Web 1.0" for "Web 2.0" in that table and it would still hold. So what's the problem exactly? Mark. On 2/17/06, Todd Biske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had to split it into two PDFs, since there were some ads in the > middle. > > http://www.biske.com/eWeek021306.pdf > http://www.biske.com/eWeek021306.p2.pdf > > -tb > > On Feb 17, 2006, at 3:57 PM, JP Morgenthal wrote: > > > eWeek has not posted this article online. Does anyone have the > > ability to > > scan and send to the rest of the group? I may be able to, but not > > until > > next week. > > > > JP > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > Of Eric > > Newcomer > > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:42 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [service-orientated-architecture] eWeek Comparison of > > SOA and > > Web 2.0 > > > > I haven't seen the article either, although I believe this is the > > one I was > > interviewed for. If so, I hope my contribution seemed ok ;-) > > > > Based on the comments I've seen here it sure seems like someone has > > mixed up > > architecture and technology. > > I also am with Anne about this what the heck is Web 2.0 stuff - I > > don't > > like the name but I suppose we are stuck with it... > > > > What I hope came through though is the need to connect the Web 2.0 > > technologies to enterprise data sources using Web services. > > > > I have blogged a bit about this, but mostly within the overall > > context of > > the need to standardize the software industry. The Web 2.0 stuff > > is a great > > illustration of the benefits of standardization, and to me it's a good > > illustration of the kind of thing the industry needs to achive in > > enterprise > > software. > > > > The importance of standardization to productivity: > > > > http://www.iona.com/blogs/newcomer/archives/000255.html > > > > Solution through standardization: > > > > http://www.iona.com/blogs/newcomer/archives/000258.html > > > > How it all ties into Web 2.0: > > > > http://www.iona.com/blogs/newcomer/archives/000259.html > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > --- Todd Biske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> There's been a rash of articles on the Web 2.0 and SOA due to John > >> deVaDoss' (Microsoft) recent comments. While I just went to the > >> eWeek site and couldn't find the article, I know I saw that table > >> that > >> you mentioned and I shook my head as well. If I recall correctly, > >> the > >> article kept flip-flopping on whether SOA and Web 2.0 were > >> complementary or not, and that table didn't help at all. > >> > >> It's a shame that the waters were muddied by that article, because I > >> actually think some of the discussion going on around SOA and Web 2.0 > >> is very good. I've been making some notes in prep for a blog entry, > >> but have had some other things to take care of, so it's still on the > >> back burner. I've got strong roots on the user side of the world, so > >> tying SOA concepts back to areas where users have to interact with > >> systems is always interesting for me. > >> > >> -tb > >> > >> On Feb 15, 2006, at 3:56 PM, JP Morgenthal wrote: > >> > >>> Did anyone catch eWeek's horrible article on SOA > >> and Web 2.0 in the > >>> 2/13 issue? Am I crazy or is this the stupidest > >> thing this > >>> publication ever printed? Their chart comparing > >> SOA to Web 2.0 is > >>> downright asinine. 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