Jerry:

This is indeed a pretty good description and I agree with most of it.

I don't agree with making as strict a relation as that of a type and instance. 
I think it is more appropriate to leave it at the level of defining 
architecture as the answer to the question "what are the parts and how do they 
behave" and design is the answer to the question "how are the parts actually 
going to be built".

Mukund Balasubramanian
CTO/Infravio Inc.





-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected] 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Fri Mar 10 08:29:28 2006
Subject: Re: [service-orientated-architecture] Re: SOA Infrastructure

Alex,

Many here agree that architecture and design are two
different things and architecture goes before design. 
Some may think that architecture is just a step in the
design.  I disagree.  

One way to differentiate the two is that architecture
is the form or identity or a type. Design is an
instance of that type and is a model that describes
how the parts are implemented, what materials are used
etc.  A car is an identity as opposed to a boat and a
generic description of a car is the architecture.  A
car can be designed into a wood car, a plastic car and
metal car etc.  So there are infinite designs with
respect to the same architecture.  Software
architecture is technology dependent such as object
oriented or service oriented etc. but it is platform
independent.   The same architecture can be designed
using different platforms such as J2EE or .Net etc.  

Architecture has something to do with basic beliefs
that are either accepted or rejected. Design is about
how basic beliefs about some thing come into reality.

Jerry

--- Alexander Johannesen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 3/10/06, Jerry Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Architecture is not designed but defined.
> >
> 
> I think you'll find that architecture is used as a
> word describing how
> something is designed, again, pointing back to
> design being something an
> architect does.
> 
> But anyways, if you look up the definitions for
> architecture, there are as
> many definitions as there are people trying to
> define it. There is no one
> answer to this, and I assert that the word itself
> should be erased from
> serious computer language. :)
> 
> 
> Alex
> --
> "Ultimately, all things are known because you want
> to believe you know."
>                                                     
>     - Frank Herbert
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