From Alexander's message:
 1) "one day SOAP will be over"
 - no doubt, there is first ... and the last day for everything, isn't it? But 
there will be something else, in the next spiral loop, rooted in SOAP and 
others.
 
 2)  "Incidentally, this shows a problem with relying on any external SOAP
 or REST service for some mission-critical role in your own code. How
 can you be sure that one day your service provider won't turn it off?"
 - you may be sure at the same level as you are sure that a metheor would not 
hit your car tomorrow; there are many other example. How people doing business 
- they take risks (educated and not). 
 
 It is not about SOAP or REST, it is about dependencies in the society, 
collaboration and trust (and SW is not an isolated world). People had to expose 
their businesses making its specialized, i.e. dependent on other specialized 
businesses, to live in better economical and cultural environment (a few 
thousand years ago).
 
 3) since dependencies are inevitable, the ways making them less painful are 
standardization and redundancy, I assume. If standardization is about 
connectivity, the redundancy is about surviving business failures and business 
“turn off”, and about self healing economical competition.
   
  -          Michael Poulin
  

Alexander Johannesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                                 
 The end of SOAP :
 "It won't happen at once, it wont be overnight, but one day SOAP will
 be over. We will look back and wonder "what were we thinking". It will
 be up there with ActiveX, EJB2, and other things that we will describe
 as mistakes that should never have made it past the powerpoint stage."
 
 "Incidentally, this shows a problem with relying on any external SOAP
 or REST service for some mission-critical role in your own code. How
 can you be sure that one day your service provider won't turn it off?"
 
 http://www.1060.org/blogxter/entry?publicid=4B4C0B46DC743154ECB68300531D6A04
 
 No one can solve the problem of people turning their services
 completely off, but how do we make sure that switching from one to
 another is as painless as possible?
 
 Alex
 -- 
 "Ultimately, all things are known because you want to believe you know."
                                                          - Frank Herbert
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