Steve

Please remember that these messages are being parsed into Java objects and
also echo'ed. So this isn't a good comparison with a traditional messaging
system (like MQ) where the messages are typically one-way and the actual
parsing processing of the body isn't considered part of the test.

The closest we did to your test was the echoStrings-5000 test which had a
message size of 200k (therefore 400k throughput per message) and we got more
that 400req/s which was completely saturating the 1Gb/s ethernet segment. I
don't think you can really ask more?!

Paul

On 1/30/07, Steve Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Paul,

Its interesting stuff, but I'd certainly say that "serious work" in XML
land can often be significantly above 4-6k, and often (when using industry
standard schemas) in the 200-500k range and pretty complex structures.
Which means around 30 tps from the graph which isn't very much.  One of the
issues in industry is that there are great reasons to use industry standard
schemas but they are pretty evil things as they aim to cover all cases, this
makes them very inefficient.

Have you folks done anything around how to scale B2B and domain to domain
scenarios with large documents?  From my wikipedia ripping experience I'd
expect StAX to massively outperform JAXB due to the large envelope but small
content pieces of those schemas.

I'd be happy to provide some test schemas that I've seen cause trouble.

Steve


On 30/01/07, Paul Fremantle < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   A while back we had a discussion on whether Web Services are slow.
>
> Here is some data that I think concludes that SOAP can scale to high
> transaction rates (e.g. 300 million transactions a day). The test
> isn't a real-world test, but it does show that the overhead of SOAP
> processing is minimal with the latest toolkits.
>
> Some quotes from the article.
> ----------
>
> This article shows the latest performance results of Apache Axis2 vs.
> Codehaus XFire, both Java implementations. The results demonstrate
> that modern Web Services engines can perform at very high transaction
> rates.
>
> Axis2 using the default ADB binding framework shows outstanding
> performance, with consistently better results than XFire/JAXB or
> Axis2/JAXB.
>
> Using either toolkit, the overhead of using XML and SOAP is no longer
> a limiting factor in writing distributed systems for most applications
> (with may be the exception of trading floors!). While these tests do
> not perform 'real' work, the fact that a XML messaging system can
> scale to more than 10 million transactions an hour on a single
> quad-core server shows that Web services can be used for significant
> systems applications.
>
> ---------
>
> Read more here: http://wso2.org/library/588
>
> My disclaimer - I co-authored the document and I'm a committer on the
> Axis2 and other Apache WS projects.
>
> --
> Paul Fremantle
>
> http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <paul%40wso2.com>
>






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