Hi Steve,

Please do send us the test schemas .. we'll be happy to add it to the
benchmark for the next time at least. 

FYI the benchmark is open source; see:

https://wso2.org/repos/wso2/commons/performance/axis2/

Sanjiva.

On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 22:23 +0000, Steve Jones wrote:
> Paul, 
> 
> Its interesting stuff, but I'd certainly say that "serious work" in
> XML land can often be significantly above 4-6k, and often (when using
> industry standard schemas) in the 200-500k range and pretty complex
> structures.  Which means around 30 tps from the graph which isn't very
> much.  One of the issues in industry is that there are great reasons
> to use industry standard schemas but they are pretty evil things as
> they aim to cover all cases, this makes them very inefficient. 
> 
> Have you folks done anything around how to scale B2B and domain to
> domain scenarios with large documents?  From my wikipedia ripping
> experience I'd expect StAX to massively outperform JAXB due to the
> large envelope but small content pieces of those schemas. 
> 
> I'd be happy to provide some test schemas that I've seen cause
> trouble.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> On 30/01/07, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>         A while back we had a discussion on whether Web Services are
>         slow.
>         
>         Here is some data that I think concludes that SOAP can scale
>         to high
>         transaction rates (e.g. 300 million transactions a day). The
>         test
>         isn't a real-world test, but it does show that the overhead of
>         SOAP
>         processing is minimal with the latest toolkits.
>         
>         Some quotes from the article.
>         ----------
>         
>         This article shows the latest performance results of Apache
>         Axis2 vs.
>         Codehaus XFire, both Java implementations. The results
>         demonstrate
>         that modern Web Services engines can perform at very high
>         transaction
>         rates.
>         
>         Axis2 using the default ADB binding framework shows
>         outstanding
>         performance, with consistently better results than XFire/JAXB
>         or
>         Axis2/JAXB.
>         
>         Using either toolkit, the overhead of using XML and SOAP is no
>         longer
>         a limiting factor in writing distributed systems for most
>         applications
>         (with may be the exception of trading floors!). While these
>         tests do
>         not perform 'real' work, the fact that a XML messaging system
>         can
>         scale to more than 10 million transactions an hour on a single
>         quad-core server shows that Web services can be used for
>         significant
>         systems applications.
>         
>         ---------
>         
>         Read more here: http://wso2.org/library/588
>         
>         My disclaimer - I co-authored the document and I'm a committer
>         on the
>         Axis2 and other Apache WS projects.
>         
>         -- 
>         Paul Fremantle
>         
>         http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
>         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         
>         
>         
> 
> 
-- 
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