Thanks for the clarification.

On 9/17/07, Dan Diephouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Not exactly my definition, but I didn't realize I was going to start a
> debate on this topic. I don't really want to debate what an ESB is as we'll
> probably gain as much consensus as we will debating the meaning of life.
> BUT:
>
>
>    1. CXF has never claimed to be an ESB
>    2. I don't think anyone else is referring to CXF as an ESB.
>    Including clients and users on the mailing lists. And even IONA AFAIK, 
> which
>    probably has the ESB definition closest to fitting CXF, has never claimed
>    CXF is an ESB AFAIK.
>    3. We don't want to be an ESB (or at least I and several of the
>    other developers don't want it to be one)
>    4. CXF is primarily focused on supporting web service standards and
>    JCP standards relating to web services.
>
>
> - Dan
>
>
> On 9/17/07, Anne Thomas Manes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   So, it that your definition of ESB? It's purpose is to wire services
> > together?
> > I'm not sure all ESB vendors would agree with you...
> >
> > Anne
> >
> > On 9/17/07, Dan Diephouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >   Just a clarification: CXF is not an ESB, its a framework for
> > > building web services (sure we also support non WS stuff, but really its 
> > > all
> > > about building services - not wiring them together).
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > - Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/16/07, Anne Thomas Manes <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   From what I've seen, Mule appears to be the most popular open
> > > > source ESB, if that's what you mean. But with so many ESBs to choose 
> > > > from --
> > > > both commercial and open source -- I don't think that says all that 
> > > > much.
> > > > The market is remarkably overcrowded.
> > > >
> > > > I'd love to hear from folks on this list about their experiences
> > > > using ESBs. Let's start with the open source ones. Is anyone out there
> > > > willing to speak either publicly or privately (please contact me 
> > > > directly)
> > > > about their experience using any of the following:
> > > >
> > > > Mule
> > > > ServiceMix
> > > > JBoss ESB
> > > > WSO2 ESB
> > > > Resin ESB
> > > > Fuse
> > > > Synapse
> > > > Open ESB
> > > > CXF
> > > > PETALS
> > > > OpenCeltix
> > > > Blackbird
> > > > ChainBuilder
> > > > ESB.NET
> > > >
> > > > And does anyone know of any other open source ESBs that I missed in
> > > > this list?
> > > >
> > > > Anne
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/15/07, Steve Jones < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >   On fire as in popular or on fire as in a burning project going
> > > > > down in flames?
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 14/09/2007, jeffrschneider < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Is it just me... or is Mule on fire?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > > http://schneider.blogspot.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dan Diephouse
> > > MuleSource
> > > http://mulesource.com | http://netzooid.com/blog
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Dan Diephouse
> MuleSource
> http://mulesource.com | http://netzooid.com/blog
>
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