In Voltaire's war between the mortal enemies "good enough" and "the best", 
you'll always find me in the trenches with the former.

-- Nick (sent from my mobile phone)

-----Original Message-----
From: "JP Morgenthal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 11/22/07 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [service-orientated-architecture] SOA is ovah?!


Ummm.  Nick, you're an incredibly positive human being.  I can read  
your energy coming from your response.  Unfortunately, that was not my  
point (which I believe you realize) still SOA is the advanced approach  
that retrenches into WOA because that's what we have resources to  
accomplish versus pushing through until we actually get enough  
resources to support it.

JP



On Nov 22, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Nick Gall wrote:

> Yes! The streets with the fast moving traffic represents the WWW! The
> simple architecture of autonomous cars navigating without centralized
> control is WOA. I love it!
>
> -- Nick
>
> On 11/22/07, JP Morgenthal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is not a surprising.
> >
> > CORBA was beyond the reach of so many because of it's power and
> > complexity, so we backed off.
> > Knowledge management was beyond the reach of so many because of it's
> > power and complexity, so we backed off.
> > SOA is beyond the reach of so many because of it's power and
> > complexity....well, we can all see where this is going.
> >
> > in my opinion, this is a resource issue. To succeed, these
> > initiatives require availability of knowledgeable resources and in
> > each case the level of complexity has made it difficult to build
> > enough momentum for any one of these avenues.
> >
> > In each case, we backed off to a more simple approach. In one
> > conference I used the "rats in the sewer" analogy, which made the
> > press at the time. I will reiterate it here for the entertainment
> > value.
> >
> > The distributed computing industry is akin to a group of rats in the
> > sewer. They run through their sewer pipes making connections and
> > building communities. Eventually, one rat becomes more intelligent
> > than the other rats and attempts to move up to a higher level where
> > the food is fresher and more abundant. So, they find their way up a
> > pipe to ground level only to end up in the middle of the street
> > swarmed by fast moving cars or people, and in their fear they
> > retrench back

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