Ahhh... this brings back fond memories of the midrange server vs. mainframe
server wars, where the mainframers looked down on midrange systems (Unix,
VMS) and scoffed at how untrained/uneducated/incapable their developers were
when it came to building "real" enterprise systems. It's fun to see the
youngsters now walking in the shoes of the oldsters and denigrating the next
generation of untrained/uneducated/incapable developers, ie web developers.

The more things change the more they stay the same. There must be something
wrong with me (psychological
neoteny<http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10section3a.t-3.html?ex=1323406800&en=3f6e0203d3bf81e6&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss>perhaps?),
cause each time around I'm on the side of the new kids on the
block.

-- Nick

On Nov 27, 2007 11:10 AM, Gregg Wonderly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A lot of people were employeed in the late 1990s and early 2000s to build
web
> sites using JSP,ASP and HTML. From these 'programming' experiences (single

> threaded, non-concurrent, non-distrubuted), they became educated enough to
think
> about building server based applications (J2EE, SQL, Servlets etc). Now,
we
> have a whole sewer full of 'programmers' that do not understand the
engineering
> principals that will keep them from getting hit by cars and bicyles as
they get
> onto the main road of enterprise level computing system development.
>
> Instead, they reach down into the sewer and grab some friends and comfort
and
> keep using those old, frail technologies because that is what they have
> experience and (in practice) education for.
>
> The resources are a plenty, they are just largely
untrained/uneducated/incapable
> and thus can't make the decisions and execute with any degree of success.
>
> Gregg Wonderly
>
> 



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