Oh, this is simply about semantics. RWE is viewed as a result of service's 
activities; it may be a change in the state of business or technical system. An 
ESB as an infrastructural element of SOA environment supports service 
invocation but does not affect service activities (if a service, in turn, uses 
ESB during its execution, the ESB still does not affect final result of the 
service activities).

If one deploys a service implemented as a process onto the ESB, the RWE is 
expected from the process/service, not from the ESB per se.
-Michael


----- Original Message ----
From: htshozawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:21:35 PM
Subject: [service-orientated-architecture] ESB/Intermediary in SOA (was Data 
services (was Re: Definition of SOA))


--- In service-orientated- architecture@ yahoogroups. com, Michael Poulin 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote:
>
> Dear H.Ozawa, you did not get my point - I said that it WAS 
UNREALISTIC! That is, the realistic ESB does NOT represent a service it 
engages on the provider side. As a result, the consumer must have a 
Contract with ESB but this Contract does not make sense because it does 
not offer any RWE to a consumer. 
>
I read your opinion and would appreciate if you would elaborate why 
there isn't RWE to a consumer when using ESB.

H.Ozawa

    


      

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