+1 on the Mediation.  This is the thing that I tried to get moving on
the BSB side.  All I want is an "ESB" that does mediation, but vendors
keep making it do more.

One thing well.

Steve


2008/6/26 Todd Biske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> That depends on your ESB. As Rob pointed out somewhere in the thread,
> ESBs can be used as a mediation platform (my personal preference),
> providing pure "in-the-middle" capabilities and never acting as the
> final service endpoint, in which case it had better provide some
> support for versioning. ESBs can also be used as a service
> development and execution platform (I'm not a fan of this but there's
> no arguing that it exists), in which case the support for versioning
> and management will be much weaker, and possibly non-existent.
>
> I just made a Venn diagram for my book on the overlap between the XML
> appliance space, the Service Management Platform space, and the ESB
> space. It looks like this:
>
> 
>
>
> All of the products tend to have some management capabilities, the question
> you need to ask is whether or not is has all of the management capabilities
> you need.  Based on the products I've had experience with, the biggest thing
> that tends to be lacking from a management standpoint in products that
> aren't marketed as Service Management or Run-Time SOA Governance platforms
> is the ability to break things down on a per-consumer basis where multiple
> consumers are using the same public access point (URL), such as knowing that
> consumer A sent 1000 requests for service 1 in the last 10 minutes and
> consumer B sent 500 requests for service 1 in the last 10 minutes.  These
> products will only tell you that service 1 received 1500 requests in the
> last 10 minutes, whereas all of the major service management platforms can
> break it down.
>
> -tb
>
> On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:48 PM, htshozawa wrote:
>
>> That's my point! ESB is not a management tool. It is recommended to use
>> an ESB with a management tool to manage service versioning and
>> lifecycle.
>>
>> H.Ozawa
>>
>> --- In [email protected], Michael Poulin
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I did not get your question: Axis is a development/run-time set of
>>
>> libraries, it is not a management tool ( as I recall). If an ESB
>> contains an Axis module in certain version and your service (built with
>> Axis) uses another Axis  version, it might be a problem, I guess....
>>>
>>> - Michael
>>
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