A couple of also interesting (I think) things to add: 1) with some knowledge and efforts, a UDDI may be used in the same manner as LDAP - you will be the master of its meta-data/schema and you will be able to store all information needed to "to be able to track a fault/problem all the way from the business process down to a switch, network card or a cpu in a server and vice versa" via its programmatic (vs. manual) interface
2) I have not seen or heard of such use of UDDI as I described in 1). Probably, Anne will correct me here. Nevertheless, the task "to track a fault/problem all the way from the business process down to a switch, network card or a cpu in a server and vice versa" is one of the major ones on the way to the SO model of the enterprise. I know that IBM hasn't included UDDI support into is service registry/repository and offered an alternative solution for this I agree with Kelly Emo on the mentioned statement: SO registry/repository needs some things that CMDB and UDDI include today, especially, with regard to governance (policies/procedures) and operational business service/process changes. So, I solute to Todd with his Provision-2006. - Michael ----- Original Message ---- From: Dennis Djenfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2008 8:45:51 PM Subject: Re: [service-orientated-architecture] ITIL & SOA Governance The current organization I'm working with are in the progress of upgrading from HP SOA Systinet 2.x to 3.0, and there has been a lot of talk about how the information in the register/repository could be integrated with a CMDB. The IT operation would like to be able to track a fault/problem all the way from the business process down to a switch, network card or a cpu in a server and vice versa. I haven't seen a fully automated solution to this yet, and I haven't had the time to participate in the evaluation of HP SOA Systinet 3.0, but it was interesting to read this article, where Kelly Emo from HP says: "The new SOA infrastructure component captures more than UDDI information, it encompasses best practices, CMDB information, and sets the stage for a wider culture of governance" http://it.toolbox. com/blogs/ dana-gardners- briefing- direct/with- systinet- 30-hp-broadens- soa-governance- role-to-encompas s-services- lifecycle- business- processes- it-service- management- 27584 // Dennis Djenfer Todd Biske wrote: I'm not that familiar with the ITIL v3 processes (just got registered for some training in November), but from what I understand of IT Service Management, I see no reason why the techniques of service management shouldn't be applicable to either IT services (e.g. Build me a new server) or business services that are supported by It solutions such as a Web Service. As for the tooling, I absolutely think that we'll see convergence in the CMDB space and the Service Registry/Repository space. I've blogged on this in the past, as early as August of 2006, but my prediction has yet to come true. I think there's still too big of a gap between the development side of IT and the operational side of IT to really establish a market for a converged product. Blog: http://www.biske. com/blog/ ?p=64 -tb Todd Biske http://www.biske. com/blog/ Sent from my iPhone On Oct 8, 2008, at 11:54 AM, delarco71 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] es> wrote: Dear friends, How ITIL v3 processes could be applied to Services Lifecycle ... or in SOA Management area?. Is it possible that SOA/ITIL vendors approach in a future a convergence between the CMDB and Repository products? Regards, jose ________________________________ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1714 - Release Date: 2008-10-08 07:01
