On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Alexander Johannesen <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 16:27, Nick Gall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > B-SOA (without T-SOA) == BS-OA
> > just as much as T-SOA without B-SOA == BS-OA
> > In other words, a free floating set of new biz concepts (B-SOA) without
some
> > new concepts for realizing them (T-SOA) is just BS. And some new
concepts
> > for realization (T-SOA) without new guiding biz concepts is just a
different
> > kind of BS.
>
> At this point, I can only say BS = bullshit. Can someone *please*
> expand the acronyms so that us mere mortals can get a whiff of what
> this is all about?

Alex, you've got it. I'm calling Bullsh*t on Business-SOA, which I interpret
as business-only SOA, ie believing that technology is basically irrelevant
to the success of SOA because "good" business-only SOA can work with ANY
technology, including smoke signals. That's pure fantasy concocted on PPT
slides. Hence B-SOA (business-only SOA) is BS-SOA (bullsh*t SOA).

T-SOA (Technology-SOA) is just as bad. It believes that business-issues
don't matter because SOA technology is so powerful and wonderful and magical
that the mere purchase, deployment, and technical training in WS-*, ESBs,
Registry/Repositories will improve the business automagically. T-SOA
(technology-only SOA) is also BS-SOA (bullsh*t SOA).

Sorry my bad punning was so confusing.

-- Nick

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