2008/11/17 Nick Gall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Steve Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> The key to success in technology delivery is focusing the right >> technology on the right bit and that means understanding the business >> model and the type of IT measures that make sense in that part. This >> is what a Business SOA approach is about, its about understanding the >> services, understanding the right support that IT needs to deliver in >> the different parts of the business and understanding the different >> delivery models that will deliver that success. >> >> Clearly its about both technology and business, the focus of most of >> IT however is on the wrong side (by a long way) and quite often >> innovation isn't about applying a shiny new technology its about doing >> something smart with what you have already, or the application of an >> old approach from one sector into your sector where it hasn't been >> done yet. >> >> This is the difference between Business driven SOA and the T-SOA >> approach. T-SOA says "use the technology" >> >> Business driven SOA says "Use this type of technology here, and >> deliver it in this way". > > My original comment was: > "In other words, a free floating set of new biz concepts (B-SOA) without > some new concepts for realizing them (T-SOA) is just BS. And some new > concepts for realization (T-SOA) without new guiding biz concepts is just a > different kind of BS." > > Yet you strongly disagreed with it in a follow up email. Your quoted > comments from your latest email now seem to be in agreement with my original > comment.
Nope. What I'm saying now, and saying then, and saying in between is that T-SOA is not a requirement for successful delivery of a Business driven SOA approach. I'm also not saying that Business driven SOA is a free floating set of concepts. I think here could be a misunderstanding on each others terms. For me I think that T-SOA (which Stefan Tilkov defined as being WS-*) is not required for a business to deliver a business SOA approach and that most companies would get more benefit focusing on using it to improve the 80%+ of existing IT spend than they will from focusing on the <20% that is spent on new projects. Steve > -- Nick >
