Yes, we still disagree. 

IMO, SOA is not a level of architecture. It has no inherent level of scope. SO 
can be applied business-wide, technology-wide, application-wide. At any level 
of scope the archictect desires. I understand that many here feel that "true 
SOA" is basically an EA (or BA). I don't share that view.

IA is not a subset of SOA. IA might be a subset of EA, if one does an EA and 
includes IA. Applying SO to IA makes IA and SOA.

-Rob

--- In [email protected], Michael Poulin 
<m3pou...@...> wrote:
>
> We still disagree about SOA and integration. But this is different 
> topic.
> 
> IMO, a car engine is the unit that can help car movement, but 
> saying that the engine may be a car... is too much stretch. IA may 
> be used when implementing SO solutions (SOS), but IA by itself 
> cannot be SOS; service orientation situates above integration, in 
> Technology and in Business.
> 
> - Michael


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