I'm reminded of Anne's point (also made by others?) that architecture isn't the 
effort/project of interest. It is the broader effort that prompted the 
architecture definition/rework that is key. One doesn't "do architecture" for 
the sake of architecture. 

"ROI of architecture" is misplaced, IMO. The creation of a blueprint to guide 
the creation of something is but a small part of the entire process.

Thoughts?

-Rob

--- In [email protected], Todd Biske 
<toddbi...@...> wrote:
>
> Reading this makes me wonder how many other efforts fall into the same  
> category? Lack of a business case or clear ROI is not a problem  
> specific to SOA. It is a problem for everything IT does.  This is why  
> it is no surprise to me that Anne found a positive correlation between  
> solid application rationalization/portfolio management efforts with  
> SOA success. I suspect the same thing will be true with cloud  
> computing, at least for companies with existing infrastructure. For  
> startups, it is a different story since they don't have to answer the  
> "what are my current costs" question.
> 
> -tb
> 
> Todd Biske
> http://www.biske.com/blog/
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Gervas Douglas <gervas.doug...@...>  
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Thanks to Anne for pointing out this article:
> >
> >
> > "A new Gartner survey of SOA architects finds 40 percent do not  
> > measure how long it takes to achieve a ROI for their SOA -- or if  
> > the darn thing had any business benefit, for that matter. Shame on  
> > you guys! According to the survey:
> >
> > Gartner, which carried out the survey among enterprises from around  
> > the world, also highlighted the fact that 50 per cent of those who  
> > had not yet adopted SOA technologies did so because they could not  
> > articulate and demonstrate the business value of it.
> >
> > [ Keep up on developments in SOA with InfoWorld's Technology:  
> > Architecture newsletter. ]
> >
> > The fact is that people love doing SOA, or SOA-like things, but hate  
> > doing the business cases or, more importantly, the analysis that  
> > needs to be done on the back end. There are no reasonable  
> > expectations set going into the project, nor any measurement of  
> > success on the back end. Thus, who knows if the SOA provided any  
> > business value? Also, there are no clear objectives.
> >
> > Massimo Pezzini, research vice president and fellow at Gartner, said  
> > that many companies were approaching SOA projects with excessive  
> > expectations and little awareness of the effort, resources and time  
> > needed to achieve any benefits.
> >
> > Some SOA projects are perceived to have failed when in fact there  
> > are simply no well established metrics to evaluate success," he said.
> >
> > Folks, you can't figure out if SOA is going to have any business  
> > value without doing a business case up front. This means  
> > understanding your core needs and how SOA will create an  
> > architecture that solves actual problems, and not just looking to  
> > push out an SOA because it seems like the right thing to do.
> >
> > The metrics/analysis are pretty simple:
> >
> > What are the current inefficiencies within the enterprise  
> > architecture, and how much do you think that's costing the business?
> > What is the value of reuse, and how much reuse can you expect?
> > What is the value of agility?
> > What is the estimated cost of the project?
> > What are the estimated benefits from the dollars spent?
> > More importantly, how we define success -- or when we've achieved  
> > the objectives of the project?
> >
> > There's no excuse for leaving the ROI analysis out of this process.  
> > You've been hearing that from me for years, so go run some numbers."
> >
> > You can read this at: 
> > http://www.infoworld.com/d/architecture/soa-roi-does-not-seem-be-priority-265
> >
> > Gervas
> >
> >
>


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