Hi David, I admit I still do not really get it..
E.g. for GC threads: We have static ConcurrentMarkSweepThread* ConcurrentMarkSweepThread::start(CMSCollector* collector); which creates a ConcurrentMarkSweepThread and then calls os::create_thread() to hook it up with an OSThread and start it. ConcurrentMarkSweepThread derives from NonJavaThread, which in its constructor adds the thread object to the list. So there is a time gap where the NJT is part of the list, but Thread::_osthread is still NULL. In ThreadTimesClosure::do_thread(), we call os::thread_cpu_time(thread)->fast_cpu_time(thread)->os::Linux::pthread_getcpuclockid(thread->osthread()->pthread_id(), &clockid); Should we then not crash when dereferencing the NULL osthread()->pthread_id()? Why do we crash inside pthread_getcpuclockid? If I look further into os::create_thread(), I see that there is another, smaller time gap where we create OSThread and anchor it into the Thread object: thread->set_osthread(osthread); and then later, after pthread_create is thru, set its thread id: // Store pthread info into the OSThread osthread->set_pthread_id(tid); When OSThread is created, we call OSThread::pd_initialize() and set its _threadid to 0. We do this in the constructor, before anchoring the OSThread in its Thread. So for my understanding, we should have two situations: (1)- NJT is in list, but its _osthread member is NULL. In that case I would expect a different crash. (2)- NJT is in list, _osthread is set, but its _thread_id is NULL. (Modulo any concurrency issues, e.g. could the "thread->set_osthread(osthread);" be visible before OSThread is initialized? Depending on what is happening, a fix for (1) would probably be a querying for osthread==NULL, a fix for (2) would be to guard os::--- functions - well, at least os::thread_cpu_time() - to disregard Threads with pthread_t == 0. Both fixes seem better to me than querying the stacksize() when walking the list - that seems a bit awkward. -- P.s. ConcurrentGCThread::ConcurrentGCThread() : _should_terminate(false), _has_terminated(false) { }; I was surprised to see no invocation to the base class ctor in the initializer list. I was not aware that this was even possible. For code clearness, I would prefer the call to the base class ctor to be explicit.) -- Cheers, Thomas On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 3:58 AM David Holmes <david.hol...@oracle.com> wrote: > > Sorry for the delayed response. > > On 21/11/2018 3:01 pm, Kim Barrett wrote: > >> On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:50 AM, David Holmes <david.hol...@oracle.com> wrote: > >> > >> After discussions with Kim I've decided to split out the NJT list update > >> into a separate RFE: > >> > >> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8214097 > >> > >> So only the change in management.cpp needs reviewing and testing. > >> > >> Updated webrev: > >> > >> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~dholmes/8212207/webrev.v2/ > > > > Looks good. > > Thanks Kim. > > I've decided to stick with this simple fix for NJTs only. > > David > > >> > >> Thanks, > >> David > >> > >> On 20/11/2018 10:01 am, David Holmes wrote: > >>> Bug: https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8212207 > >>> webrev: http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~dholmes/8212207/webrev/ > >>> There is an internal management API that reports CPU times for > >>> NonJavaThreads (NJTs). That functionality requires a valid/live target > >>> thread so that we can use its pthread_t identity to obtain its CPU clock > >>> via pthread_getcpuclockid(). > >>> There is an iteration mechanism for NJTs in which the NJT is registered > >>> during its constructor and de-registered during its destructor. A thread > >>> that has only been constructed has not yet executed and so is not a valid > >>> target for this management API. This seems to be the cause of failures > >>> reported in this bug (and JDK-8213434). Registering a NJT only when it > >>> starts executing is an appealing fix for this, but that impacts all > >>> current users of the NJT list and straight-away causes a problem with the > >>> BarrierSet initialization logic. So I don't attempt that. > >>> Instead the first part of the fix is for ThreadTimesClosure::do_thread to > >>> skip threads that have not yet executed - which we can recognize by > >>> seeing an uninitialized (i.e. zero) stackbase. > >>> A second part of the fix, which can be deferred to a separate RFE for NJT > >>> lifecycle management if desired, tackles the problem of encountering a > >>> terminated thread during iteration - which can also lead to SEGVs. This > >>> can arise because NJT's are not actually "destructed", even if they > >>> terminate, and so they never get removed from the NJT list. Calling > >>> destructors is problematic because the code using these NJTs assume they > >>> are always valid. So the fix in this case is to move the de-registering > >>> from the NJT list out of the destructor and into the Thread::call_run() > >>> method so it is done before a thread actually terminates. This can be > >>> considered a first step in cleaning up the NJT lifecycle, where the > >>> remaining steps touch on a lot of areas and so need to be handled > >>> separately e.g. see JDK-8087340 for shutting down WorkGang GC worker > >>> threads. > >>> Testing: tiers 1 -3 > >>> I should point out that I've been unable to reproduce this failure > >>> locally, even after thousands of runs. I'm hoping Zhengyu can test this > >>> in the conditions reported in JDK-8213434. > >>> Thanks, > >>> David > > > >