I can see one approach that might win favor with the community, a feedback
discussion email list. I'm not talking about the current feedback black
hole where you drop in a suggestion and never hear it hit the bottom. The
ability to discuss and gain insight on why things are the way they are and
how they can be made better is a far more valuable resource than throwing a
suggestion over a wall and hoping it hits the right person.
(*Chris*)
----- Original Message -----
From: James Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: Comments on 2.2 Public Review Draft
> we listen ... all the time. we learn as well ... all the time.
>
> there are (at least) two tracks going on regarding serlvets
> these days:
>
> servlet interest
>
> a means by which any and all (sun and the
> world) can share ideas regarding servlets
> and the like
>
> servlet specifications
>
> a forum of individuals formed to discuss
> pending servlet specifications
>
> as i see it, there is simply no way to help the servlet
> world at large *and* nail down the "what's next with servlets"
> in one list. the specification discussions are more formal
> by nature so as to guarentee progress which begets deliverables,
> ets. a general purpose list on the other hand free to cover
> any/all discussions within the bounds of the topic (servlets
> in this case).
>
> some sun staff spans these lists and when "gems" float by one
> or the other that are just too good to let go you can be
> assured folks latch on to them ... it'd be silly to do
> otherwise.
>
> on the other hand, if you want to be sure your comments are
> heard and addressed regarding specification discussions it
> is in your best interest to consider understanding and
> participating in the specification guidelines (which are
> really not terribly rigid but none the less there are
> bounds).
>
> hope this helps,
>
> - james
>
> "Srinivasan S (Systems Engineering Group)" wrote:
> >
> > Well said I second ur statement if any specific rationale behind this
> > request james please spend some time to explain the same to developers.
> >
> > **************
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Ted Stockwell wrote:
> >
> > > Imagine if companies ran thier mail lists this way.
> > >
> > > A bunch of customers discuss features, likes, dislikes, whatever,
about your
> > > product on the product's mail list.
> > > It's obvious that employees of the company that are directly involved
with
> > > the product monitor each and every message.
> > > However, every once in a while an employee pipes up and says "By the
way, if
> > > you don't want us to ignore what you're saying you have to post it to
the
> > > "feedback" list or it won't count in our "process".
> > >
> > > Don't you think that maybe this would rightly piss off your customers
big
> > > time?
> > > Don't you view the developers on this list as your customers?
> > >
> > > As a servlet developer that's invested a lot in servlet technology I'm
here
> > > to tell you that statements like this make me froth at the mouth. I
expect
> > > Sun to seriously listen to the opinions of the developers on this
list.
> > >
> > > ted stockwell
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jim Driscoll [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >
> > > > As James says - please send in your feedback to
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], or it doesn't count in the
process.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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