Milt, thanks for pointing out the issue with the license. I forgot about that and it 
is a significant issue. I work in a non-profit educational institution, so we are able 
to use the free version of JRun.   I forgot about the fact that the license doesn't 
allow commecial use.

Milt's comments are excellent and serve to point out that Jserv is truly free 
regardless of what situation you might be in.

I wanted to chime in on the robustness of JServ as well. I have found it to be quite 
stable on a UNIX environment. I have tried Apache on NT and it has not been smooth 
sailing. JServ only works with Apache, thus on an NT platform there aren't any really 
good *freeware* servlet runners that I know about.

Now that JRun is part of Allaire's product line, hopefully the poor documentation and 
immature code releases will go away. I have found Cold Fusion to be rock solid and the 
documentation to always be excellent. Hopefully, JRun will acquire the same traits.
--Mike H



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On 11/24/1999 at 10:29 AM David Mossakowski wrote:

>You misanderstood the word freeware.  He wasn't talking about the difference
>between the free version of JRun for testing and the paid-for version.  He's
>talking about difference between JServ (which is developed in not-for-profit way
>and always free) and JRun (which is commercially developed software, ie. for
>profit).
>
>I do agree that it's a drawback that JServ only works with Apache right now.  The
>other problem is the aversion managers have to software that's developed without
>the help of big bucks.  They seem to think it's just flakey and no good.  I don't
>agree but that's the corporate mindset.
>
>dave.
>
>Milt Epstein wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Mike Hogarth,MD wrote:
>>
>> > JRun is backed by a commercial effort the freeware engine is the
>> > exact same thing as the commercial one without a few bells and
>> > whistles. Although using open source freeware is good, using
>> > commercially produced freeware is a pretty good alternative.
>> [ ... ]
>>
>> This is misleading.  One major difference between the free and
>> commercial versions of JRun is that the free one has a limit on the
>> number of concurrent connections (5, I believe).  Also, the free one
>> has some licensing conditions on it, so some may not be able to use
>> it.  And I believe that there are also differences in the
>> configuration/administration interfaces.
>>
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>> > On 11/23/1999 at 4:59 PM Pat Willard wrote:
>> >
>> > >I've not used Jserv, but a friend who has
>> > >tells me that configuring and managing your
>> > >application with JRun is easier than with Jserv.
>> > >
>> > >-- Pat
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: A mailing list for discussion about Sun Microsystem's Java Servlet
>> > >API Technology. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>> > >Nikolaos Giannopoulos
>> > >Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 10:00 AM
>> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >Subject: High-End Servlet Engine for Apache
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Hi,
>> > >
>> > >We are debating over JRUN and Jserv as two possible Servlet Engines that we
>> > >would use for our Sun E450 Solaris box.
>> > >
>> > >We are looking for a reliable, stable, and high throughput servlet engine
>> > >that will be used to service video.
>> > >
>> > >ANY help in making this decision is appreciated... Any other Servlet
>> > >Engines that integrate well into an Apache/Solaris environment would also
>> > >be welcome.
>> > >
>> > >THANKS,
>> > >
>> > >--Nikolaos
>> > >
>> > >_______________________________________________________________________
>> > >Nikolaos Giannopoulos
>> > >Director, Solmar Solutions Inc.
>> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >www.solmar.ca
>> > >(819) 684 - 0023
>> > >
>> >
>>
>> Milt Epstein
>> Research Programmer
>> Software/Systems Development Group
>> Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
>> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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