I tend to agree with this view 101%. It looks to me that requirements for a
web designer are: a) must have an HTML editor, b) must have less than 2.5
grams of brain, c) knowlwdge of HTML is strictly prohibited.

There is an inherent conflict of interest there. Web designers charge
per web page while dynamic web pages minimize maintenance cost
(e.g., changed based on database content).

Recently I started with a web designer early in the project. The
produced design would basically eliminate any dynamics in the pages and
would need the designer for the life time of the product. The desifner-would-be-artist
did not want to hear about dynamic pages so I dismissed him.

The other designer unintentionally damaged Java Script in the templste I gave
him. So I ended up debugging his design.

What do I do now? I finish functionally the whole product, the designer
does some make-up on fully functional samples of dynamic pages,
and then I return html tags into my code.

May be I just had bad luck with designers and may be I am too
frustrated with them but such is life.

Cheers

DD

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From:   Steve Geach[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, January 26, 2000 10:05 AM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        Re: New article: "The Problems with JSP"

Hi

I see these discussions on templates and take a look at examples because
I start to feel like I should be using them or at least taking on board
what they attempt to do.

The problem is, and it seems like there is agreement on this, that it really
doesn't seem to make the JSP easier to read or use. A designer would still
have to understand HTML markup and basic JSP to appreciate and use the
templates easily.

This is not criticism just my viewpoint.

Cheers

Steve

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