Danek Duvall wrote: > Roland Mainz wrote: > > The question is "why are longer build times be painfull" ? > > Because the official builds machine already take 10+ hours
... which isn't much different from the old Mozilla builds... > to build all of > SFW. If a nightly is broken for any reason, the turnaround time to get a > good build out is a long time. 1. ... remeber my old request to get a tinderbox installation for OS/Net and SFWNV to track the problems in real-time, e.g. before official builds are made ? IMO this could at least help a bit finding and fixing problems before the official builds it them... 2. I can understand that developers (even within Sun) do little build testing with SFWNV - the tree is really _hard_ to use because incremental builds are broken since _years_ (at least since 2006) and even minor changes require full rebuilds (the same issue is responsible for driving contributors away from it - compared to OS/Net the SFWNV build is a _pain_). > Again, it may still be worth the pain, but the cost of doing this is not > free, so we should take some care in the analysis of what needs to be > optimized, and to what degree. IMO without an official policy noone will care much about this (at least not for SFWNV - at least I've seen too much stuff in SFWNV where I am still wondering: "Why ? OMG why ? Why do they use these build flags ? Why ?"), getting the old stuff cleaned-up is difficult if lots of paperwork is required (e.g. "you must do 500 benchmarks on all possible platforms" (<--- OkOk... I'm overdrawing... but only a bit...) or "you must come-up with 'solid, unbendable proof' that the changes do not break anything" (<--- nasty comment of the day: Right now some stuff delivered via SFWNV (like "bash") doesn't even pass it's own test suite in the way how it's build in SFWNV)) and may even be impossible for people without access to matching hardware. ---- Bye, Roland -- __ . . __ (o.\ \/ /.o) roland.mainz at nrubsig.org \__\/\/__/ MPEG specialist, C&&JAVA&&Sun&&Unix programmer /O /==\ O\ TEL +49 641 3992797 (;O/ \/ \O;)
