Richard,

You brought up the issue of frame relay in response to the fixed IP/NAT
question.  I have a question and therefore hoping you might know more about
this topic (I'm sure more than I do.)

In the Chicago area, Ameritech just began an aggressive campaign into the
DSL business.  They are not only providing the line connection, as they have
already been doing for DSL in general, but also are the ISP provider
(ameritech.net rather than covad or northpoint, who have been the main
suppliers in this area).  No more resellers, one can go Ameritech direct.

The key here is that they are providing DSL at a very inexpensive price.
Most DSL providers have a tiered pricing scheme for offices. For SDSL, 768K
downstream and 128K upstream, they want between $400 and $600 per month.
Ameritech offers this for significantly less.  For a single user account,
dynamic IP, 768K down and 128K up, they sell it for $39 per month, and $69
per month for "multi-user" which comes with a DSL router (you pay $450 for
this box, just reduced from $600).

Here's the rub.  I figure $39 per month, forget their router, I'll use STN.
And order it for my clients.  They fax a sheet to my client saying, OK,
we're putting in the line for a single user account - and it requires an ATM
card to be put in the computer and they are taking out any ethernet card in
that computer.  ATM what's that all about.  I call Ameritech and they say
it's a marketing decision, if you want ethernet you have to go to the $69
per month and buy the router.

So, Richard, what's the deal with ATM (different than frame relay?).  Can
one forgo the ATM card and use a "bridge" which connects to the DSL/ATM
cloud and then somehow hub over to ethernet and still use STN?

If one can save the $450 and the $20 per month ($240 per year) is it worth
it to try and get the ATM bridged to ethernet.  And finally what nasty
configurations are involved or is it pretty straight forward and Ameritech
is just trying to throw a monkey wrench into this to keep me off base?

What bridge do you recommend?  And then do you just "uplink" connect the
bridge to the ethernet hub?

Any help would be appreciated.

Arnie
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"Richard G. Samuels" wrote:

> Do you mean a frame relay? Do you connect with a bridge or a router? If
> you connect with a bridge, you can connect an ethernet hub to the
> bridge, plug the four workstations into the hub and assign the
> appropriate IP address to each workstation. You would then plug the STN
> box into the hub and configure it normally.

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