To say the raven blades are "oversized" would be a stretch. I thought the heads had a very compact look.
THEY ARE THE MOST SOLID BLADE I HAVE EVER HIT! THe only two heads that I though felt better are the Dynacraft Q4's (my current irons), and the Maltby Golfworks RDM's (Infreadible feel but too much offset for my taste. The Raven NearNet heads are very good. The heads were more solid than half od the heads I have from Golfworks (and they are all cavity backs)...go figure. FWIW I was at Raven last weekend and had a chance to hit the NearNet Drivers...Can you say SOLID! Every shot was 225-230 and the range at raven starts to go uphill (kind of fast) at the 200 yard marker. I think you will really like the raven heads JP LaChance ccugolf.com Madison, WI -----Original Message----- From: James T. Voorhies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 10:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Fitting Question Cub, What type of iron do you now play and how is the sole different from the Mizuno? If your current irons are curved and the Mizuno is flatter, then the shorter length and flatter lie would cause the heel to be down and cause problems. Also what is "poor results" ? Since you hit the center, then what does the lie tape say? The toe hits on the flatter lie is puzzling and Pat's explanation is a good suspect. You might be hitting the heel first and the toe hits are resulting from that. What were you hitting off of? Lie board, grass tee, artificial tee with rubber tee, artificial tee with no tee, bare dirt....tight lie on volcano ash? Each of these present different views of your problem, on one medium, the length would have a minimal effect, and on another it would be very critical if you were on the edge of too upright to begin with. Without being there and seeing what you saw with a different pair of eyes, we would be shooting in the dark. I really have an ulterior motive for answering. I recently tried a Raven NearNet Forged 60* wedge and liked the feel, the results, and the 4* bounce instead of the 6* bounce I had on my Dynacraft Flying D 60" wedge. The head is finished very nice and the club seems to work better for me, though I am far from a fair wedge player let alone anywhere near a good one that could offer any real critique of a wedge head. I usually try an unknown club in the Lob Wedge first if the set has one, that way, if I don't like the head, I can always sell the Lob Wedge a lot easier than a 7 or 5 iron. I heard good things about the NearNet forged irons and wanted to try both the cavity back with offset and the blades which have no offset. I am thinking of getting the Raven NearNet forged cavity back irons in 3-7 and the Blades in 8-PW to make a set. I play 2" over modern standard length on all my irons with graphite shafts cut to strong A Flex. I am looking forward to your Raven Blade Project and Report here. The Raven site says that the Blades are oversize, and the LW I got certainly was a nice large size. I looked at the Cavity back and blades at McCann's a couple weeks ago and they were a little smaller than I would like. Anyway, with your dilemma, I would take static and dynamic lie readings and work from there. What happens when you choke up .25" down on your current irons? Anyway, as I said, I had an ulterior motive for answering and hope to hear of your Rave Blades project. What shaft you going to use? Dr. Voo RxGolf Custom Clubs -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pat & Laura Kelley Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 9:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Fitting Question Mizuno std 6i is 37.25 and 60.5, correct? What is your 'normal' ball flight? If you have an over the top swing, maybe the toe drag is preventing a slight pull.... The shorter length would correspond to a slightly flatter lie, but .25" length change is maybe .5 deg. lie..... Interesting situation. PK -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve "Cub" Culbreth Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: Fitting Question Jents, I'm confused over the conclusions I have drawn on my own fitting. I have fit and re-fit myself several times over the years with very little change if any. I currently play irons that are Men's Modern Standard in length (37.5" 6-iron) and 2 degrees upright (62deg). Yesterday I used the Mizuno fitting cart and came up with something weird. With a .25" length change, I was hitting the 2deg upright in the center but had poor results. When I hit the same length iron in standard lie (60deg) my shotmaking accuracy greatly improved but all the ball marks were on the toe. Since I tend to agree that a physician shouldn't try to heal himself, I solicit thoughts from you folks. What gives? It is rather important to figure this out now since I have some Raven Near Net Blades on the way over here. TIA, Cub
