Al,
Expertly expanded upon! Wish I had some of your gifted talent of
getting your points across.
Mike Walker, mwalker@WalkTech.com
www.WalkTech.com
-----Original Message-----Rob,
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Al Taylor
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Frequency slope
There is some merit to flat lining a set of clubs, and a lot of other theories on which slope method is best. Let me ask you a question or two, and by the way, I do mostly low handicap golfers. Just what part of your game is so bad that you need to change everything? Exactly what did this supposed fitter say was his reasoning to change your clubs? How much lower are you going to get your handicap, with an entirely new set of sticks? Is this guy certified by the PCS or GCA? Will he guarantee game improvement with his clubs and will he offer 100% refund if they don't?
Those were the questions, here are my answers. He is full of crap! First of all, being a scratch golfer you will adapt to almost any club someone gives you. Second of all, having a smooth tempo will allow for some room for a fitter's error, or put another way, acceptable total weight and swing weight and flex seem to have more of a range, and especially with a better golfer. At your level of play, the only true test is to try small variations in your setup, looking for a better feel or shot shape. The only honest and legitimate question this fitter should ask is, "what part of your game do you feel needs help?" Based on what you have presented, this guy couldn't make any small adjustments, since he is locked into specific equipment and theory. Any fitter worth the time talking to will do an interview of at least a half hour, discussing your game and equipment and goals. Run, don't walk, from this guy.
FWIW. ONLY based on your info given below, it appears someone is pretty close to fitting you correctly. Rifles 6.0's sound just about right and I was curious about using the Lights, but not a problem. My guess is your Driver is around 265-270 if the same fitter made that for you, and that would be about right also.
Look, the guy has got a game plan to make some money. Maybe his system works, maybe it doesn't, I donno. I do know though, his goal is to sell clubs, not necessarily improve your game. How could anyone in their right mind, take a scratch golfer and change the weight, frequency, slope and flex of a set of clubs, in good conscience, and tell the golfer he was helping him. Just my opinion, of course I could be wrong.
Al Taylor
PCS Certified Class A Club Maker
GCA Accredited Club Maker and Fitter
At 10:06 PM 9/27/2002, you wrote:
Hi All,
Recently a club fitter came to my club and set up shop on the driving range for 5 days to fit golfers and build/retrofit clubs with a zero frequency slope. He either built you a new set of clubs with their heads or re-shafted your clubs with their shafts trimmed to the zero slope. He also spine aligned and swingweight matched the clubs. The theory on this is that every club will unload at the same point at the bottom of the swing. He calls it Single Flex Matching (TM). He maintains that it would be cost prohibitive for club manufacturers to achieve this. He measured my 3,5,7,and 9 irons and the frequency numbers were 301, 310, 317, and 325. They are Rifle lite 6.0 shafts and he felt way too stiff for me. He watched me hit some balls and recommended that I use 298 cpm (steel shafted) irons and 243 cpm (graphite shafted) woods. I am a zero handicap (6'3" 40 year old) with a smooth (slow to medium tempo) swing with a 5 iron swing speed of about 90 mph. What are your thoughts and feelings about this method and what frequency slope do most of you use when building custom clubs?
Rob Campbell
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