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Hi,
You can go to his web site at www.eagleflightgolf.com to see
his pitch. I don't see any references to the PCS or GCA, or
PGA for that matter. I also don't see any mention of a
guarantee. Since he is on wheels, he will soon be out of town and on
to the next stop, which has to make one skeptical. I did not give
him my business primarily because I don't accept change for the sake of
change when it comes to my equipment. I want to be the guy who knows
what is right for me and be able to correct a problem with my clubs when
it is indeed my clubs that are probably causing problems. I
also build my own clubs so the thought of letting him do it rubs
me the wrong way. The intention of this thread was to open up
a dialog about how to come up with the proper frequency slope for a
particular player. Should a scratch player have the same slope as a
mid handicapper? Should a fast tempo player be sloped the same as a
slow swinger? Does every shaft manufacturer give trimming
instructions with the same slope as every other
manufacturer? If not, why? I realize frequency is not
everything but for the frequency matchers out there what are you
matching and how are you coming up with your reasoning for the
frequency slope you are using.
As for my game, I really don't have a part
of my game that is so bad that I have to change everything. All
golfers strive to be more consistent. I'd have to say I'd like to
consistently put the ball closer to the hole on my approach shots with my
irons. I feel that my wedges and short irons are too stiff.
When I miss hit a shot it tends to go left unless of course I block
it. I'd also like to be a better chipper. I know what that
means though. :-)
Rob Campbell
-------Original Message-------
Date: Friday, September
27, 2002 8:31:36 PM
Subject: Re: ShopTalk:
Frequency slope
Rob,
There is some merit to flat lining a set of
clubs, and a lot of other theories on which slope method is best.
Let me ask you a question or two, and by the way, I do mostly low handicap
golfers. Just what part of your game is so bad that you need to
change everything? Exactly what did this supposed fitter say was his
reasoning to change your clubs? How much lower are you going to get
your handicap, with an entirely new set of sticks? Is this guy
certified by the PCS or GCA? Will he guarantee game improvement with
his clubs and will he offer 100% refund if they don't?
Those were
the questions, here are my answers. He is full of crap! First
of all, being a scratch golfer you will adapt to almost any club someone
gives you. Second of all, having a smooth tempo will allow for some
room for a fitter's error, or put another way, acceptable total weight and
swing weight and flex seem to have more of a range, and especially with a
better golfer. At your level of play, the only true test is to try
small variations in your setup, looking for a better feel or shot
shape. The only honest and legitimate question this fitter should
ask is, "what part of your game do you feel needs help?" Based on
what you have presented, this guy couldn't make any small adjustments,
since he is locked into specific equipment and theory. Any fitter
worth the time talking to will do an interview of at least a half hour,
discussing your game and equipment and goals. Run, don't walk, from
this guy.
FWIW. ONLY based on your info given below, it
appears someone is pretty close to fitting you correctly. Rifles
6.0's sound just about right and I was curious about using the Lights, but
not a problem. My guess is your Driver is around 265-270 if the same
fitter made that for you, and that would be about right also.
Look,
the guy has got a game plan to make some money. Maybe his system
works, maybe it doesn't, I donno. I do know though, his goal is to
sell clubs, not necessarily improve your game. How could anyone in
their right mind, take a scratch golfer and change the weight, frequency,
slope and flex of a set of clubs, in good conscience, and tell the golfer
he was helping him. Just my opinion, of course I could be
wrong.
Al Taylor
PCS Certified Class A Club Maker
GCA
Accredited Club Maker and Fitter
At 10:06 PM 9/27/2002, you
wrote:
Hi All,
Recently a
club fitter came to my club and set up shop on the driving range for 5
days to fit golfers and build/retrofit clubs with a zero frequency
slope. He either built you a new set of clubs with their heads or
re-shafted your clubs with their shafts trimmed to the zero slope.
He also spine aligned and swingweight matched the clubs. The
theory on this is that every club will unload at the same point at the
bottom of the swing. He calls it Single Flex Matching
(TM). He maintains that it would be cost prohibitive for club
manufacturers to achieve this. He measured my 3,5,7,and 9 irons
and the frequency numbers were 301, 310, 317, and 325. They are
Rifle lite 6.0 shafts and he felt way too stiff for me. He watched
me hit some balls and recommended that I use 298 cpm (steel shafted)
irons and 243 cpm (graphite shafted) woods. I am a zero handicap
(6'3" 40 year old) with a smooth (slow to medium tempo) swing with a 5
iron swing speed of about 90 mph. What are your thoughts and
feelings about this method and what frequency slope do most of you use
when building custom clubs?
Rob Campbell
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