Check Out this picture. Probably not your best player but it can happen with
a late loading of the shaft.

llhack





----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: 20 min talk


> Thanks Dave,
>
> This morning I dug into the Appendices in Jorgensen's book and he
> calculates the energy fraction in the club head after impact at 0.531,
> which indicates a velocity loss of about 30%.  I was in error.  That
> definitely changes my thinking about what happens after impact.
>
> I'm home at lunch to let the wallpaper guy in, so I'll take another look
at
> all this this evening.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Alan
>
> At 09:28 AM 1/21/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >At 11:53 PM 1/20/03 -0800, Alan Brooks wrote:
> >>Are you sure about those numbers?  A 40-ft/sec change in velocity in the
> >>half millisecond I have read the ball is in contact with the club is an
> >>average acceleration of 80,000 ft/sec/sec (a delta-V of 40 divided by a
> >>delta-t of 0.0005).  Seems a bit high.  A 90-mph club head is about
> >>132-ft/sec (60-mph is 88-ft/sec).  A change in velocity due to impact of
> >>40-ft/sec is about a 30% velocity change and I thought it was much
> >>smaller than that (about 10%).
> >
> >When you figure the momentum transfer, the clubhead loses just about 24%
> >of its velocity during impact. (Math below. I'm sure Alan is interested;
I
> >don't know who else is.)
> >
> >Bernie has sent me a copy of the polar velocity plots, and I don't see a
> >full 40 ft/sec difference, but nowhere near as small as Alan's
> >guesstimate. Here are the differences for the two plots:
> >
> >  Wood:   140 ft/sec to 110, or 30 ft/sec drop (23%)
> >  2-iron: 130 ft/sec to 95,  or 35 ft/sec drop (27%)
> >
> >Given the rough eyeball precision of the numbers I took from the graph,
> >these are pretty consistent with the math of momentum transfer that I
figured.
> >
> >>Is there any reason a strong 'hitter' with a soft shaft could not have
> >>the shaft bent back at impact?
> >
> >Alan, let me discuss this with you off-line. I've thought about it quite
a
> >bit, and would like to try some ideas on you.
> >
> >Cheers!
> >DaveT
> >
> >MOMENTUM TRANSFER EQUATIONS:
> >
> >Working the problem for the driver; other clubs would have slightly
> >different numbers.
> >
> >(1) Clubhead speed before (H0) and after (H1) impact, and ball speed (B1)
> >after impact are governed by:
> >
> >     200*H0 = 200*H1 + 45*B1
> >
> >(Typically 200g driver head weight and 45g ball weight)
> >
> >(2) The ratio of ball speed after to clubhead speed before is given in
the
> >appendix of Cochran (or derivable without much difficulty from equations
> >for conservation of momentum and energy):
> >
> >         B1/H0 = (1 + COR) / (1 + 45/200)
> >
> >If we use a COR of .7 (what it probably was with the clubs and balls of
> >Bobby Jones' day, when the plot was made), we get
> >
> >         B1/H0 = 1.39.
> >
> >(3) Plug (2) back into (1)
> >
> >         200*H0 = 200*H1 + 45*1.39*H0
> >
> >Solving this for H1/H0, we get;
> >
> >         H1/H0 = 200 / (200 + 1.39*45) = .76
> >
> >This means the clubhead retains 76% (or loses 24%) of its speed during
impact.
> >
>

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