yes, these were tapers.  I really hate using taper tips, but I didn't have a 
choice in this case.  I've noticed the same thing that Robert pointed out in 
that when I measure 5.0 and 5.5 shafts, they seem to fall in ranges that I 
expect.  But starting at about 6.0 and up, they seem to really jump up 
considerably.  Admittedly, I don't do too many sets over 6.0, and this was the 
first set of 7.5 I did.  This kid I reshafted for is a real player though - 0.5 
index, measured his swing speed at 118 on an easy swing, 123 on a normal swing, 
and 128 when he put two cheeks into it.

As a total side question, do either of the two new clubmaker's associations 
offer the same type of PCS equalizer system?


---- Allen Humphrey <sloswingsp...@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> Scott...you using taper tips unless you reamed them out....the butt cpms 
> might  or might not jump depending on what length shaft you were provided..
 Al Humphrey 
Monroe, GA 30656 
sloswingsp...@yahoo.com 
770-207-5360(O) 
770-312-6398(mobile) 




________________________________
From: Robert Devino <robertdev...@yahoo.com>
To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:06:04 PM
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: rifle conversion tables/cpm issues


I know you can't trust the 5 inch clamp numbers especially at the stiffer 
flexes.  When you get up in the 6.0 and up range the curve gets distorted using 
a 5 inch clamp and the shorter clubs bounce way up in frequency.   I have a 
Rifle chart and a 7.5 at 39 inches should start at 309 and each club should be 
4 cycles apart.

You will not get good readings with a 5 inch clamp. Especially at 7.5, the 
reason is you get to far into the butt with the short irons.  You need to use a 
2.5 inch clamp.  If you don't have one you can measure to length then mark and 
clamp the shaft 2.5 inches shorter than cut length and place that mark at the 
front of the clamp.
 Sincerely,
Robert Devino
14252 Delano St.
Van Nuys, Ca. 91401
(818) 908-1691 




________________________________
From: Allen Humphrey <sloswingsp...@yahoo.com>
To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:45:22 PM
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: rifle conversion tables/cpm issues


Scott....I have the PCS excel chart. The  5" clamp values run + 17 over the 
2.5" clamp values. Since yr set is 'flighted'....I'm guessing you have 8.0 s[ 
?] in the 3.4s: 7.5s in the 5, 6.7.and 7.0 in the 8, 9 and w's. Also depends if 
they are pre-TT shafts...
 Al Humphrey 
PRECISION GOLF SERVICES 
271 Providence Club Drive 
Monroe, GA 30656 
sloswingsp...@yahoo.com 
770-207-5360(O) 
770-312-6398(mobile) 




________________________________
From: Scott Bershing <be...@chartermi.net>
To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:39:29 PM
Subject: ShopTalk: rifle conversion tables/cpm issues

Does anyone have any excel spreadsheets that they can send me to convert a 
standard 5" butt clamp to the rifle scale?  I used to have a great one, but 
through the magic of computers it is MIA.  I have another one but I've never 
been happy with it or thought it was accurate.

The reason I'm asking for all this is I've had two sets of rifle shafts 
recently that seem to measure at least a full flex stiff, if not more.

Last night I reshafted a set of PING I3 blades with flighted 7.5 and got the 
following.  Just curious to know if this is where they should be or not.  The 
clubs are all D5-6 swingweight:

4 - 39"  335 cpm
5 - 38.5 339 cpm
6 - 38" 342 cpm
7 - 37.5" 352 cpm
8 - 37" 357 cpm
9 - 36-5/8" 359 cpm
p - 36.5" 359 cpm

Thanks,

Scott

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