Believe or don't, I've been trying to figure out a way to say things that can't possibly be taken as a dig, a slam, an insult or a denigration of any kind. This is the damndest society imaginable, when nearly everything said or written is all too often interpreted totally differently from intent. Witness the recent Gates/Coleman/Obama nonsense. My use of the term "moralize" had/has absolutely zero to do with anything you or anyone else said. TFlan
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 00:11:14 +0200 Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Favorite Club for 2009 From: marcello.fran...@gmail.com To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Moralizing was far from my mind; it was just an observation called by your statement about illegal double faced chippers. IMHO, one of the things that make golf great is that there are so many ways of playing it, from the social outing to the serious sport. To each his/her own, we just all love the game. Ciao, Marcello (BTW, I'm a "strictly by the rules" guy) 2009/8/1 Tom Flanagan <tflans...@hotmail.com> Legality for the hackers I often made clubs for seldom was an issue. 15 - 18 clubs in the bag, doublefaced chippers, illegal grips and heads, illegal balls, etc. So what? That's the way the guys played the game with their regular friends. Cheating? "Big deal", they said. "We're all carrying illegal equipment. It's our business, not anybody else's". Preferred lies, 4 foot gimmies, rooties, kick it out of divots, practice swings in bunkers and water hazards, "hey, that's the way we play, how does that affect you"? We can moralize but that's not an uncommon thing among non-tournament guys - at least in my experience. Speaking of double faced chippers, how about the Acushnet "Bullseye" putter of years ago? That was a two faced club and perfectly legal. I played one for many years. It was a great little putter, especially on quick greens. T Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 20:59:24 +0200 Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Favorite Club for 2009 From: marcello.fran...@gmail.com To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Beware... putter grip on a chipper is illegal too. Ciao, Marcello 2009/8/1 Tom Flanagan <tflans...@hotmail.com> We used to call them "jiggers" or "chippers". 7 or 8 iron length, 8 - 9 iron loft, wide sole, relatively heavy weights, sometimes with a putter grip. I have a couple of them in my pile of cast-offs. They even came double-faced - illegal but my father-in-law had one and used it to great effect. Every one I've seen was a "off-brand" from component catalogs. I assembled several over a fairly short period of time for some higher handicap guys who had troubles with the "flippy wrist syndrome". Use a putting grip around the green and "jigger" the ball up to the hole. They work. TFlan > Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:05:00 -0400 > To: shoptalk@mail.msen.com > From: j...@clubmaker-online.com > Subject: ShopTalk: Favorite Club for 2009 > > Now that the golf season has been in full swing for a while and > you've had a chance to try out 2009 component combo's, I wonder which > you all had the most luck with. > My favorite new club is the Cleveland Niblick. I finally gave up > trying to learn how to chip and the Niblick has saved me on many > occasions. Last week I sunk two long chips out of 9 holes. > -- > > > Thanks! > John Muir > http://clubmaker-online.com > http://gripscience.com > http://thedriverstudio.com > http://twitter.com/golfcast > 810.923.7396 > > sponsored by the new Aldila Voodoo > http://aldilavoodoo.html > > -- > Shoptalk ** Sponsored by the new Aldila Voodoo. > Learn more at http://aldilavoodoo.com/ Get your vacation photos on your phone! Click here. Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009
