Tom,
If my email sent a message like I was in any way offended by your
statements, it was away from my intent and I apologize for that. English is
not my mother tongue, and probably the tone of my email came out harder than
I wanted.

Sorry for that and ciao,
Marcello

2009/8/2 Tom Flanagan <tflans...@hotmail.com>

>  Believe or don't, I've been trying to figure out a way to say things that
> can't possibly be taken as a dig, a slam, an insult or a denigration of any
> kind. This is the damndest society imaginable, when nearly everything said
> or written is all too often interpreted totally differently from intent.
> Witness the recent Gates/Coleman/Obama nonsense. My use of the term
> "moralize" had/has absolutely zero to do with anything you or anyone else
> said.
> TFlan
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 00:11:14 +0200
>
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Favorite Club for 2009
> From: marcello.fran...@gmail.com
> To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com
>
> Moralizing was far from my mind; it was just an observation called by your
> statement about illegal double faced chippers.
>
> IMHO, one of the things that make golf great is that there are so many ways
> of playing it, from the social outing to the serious sport. To each his/her
> own, we just all love the game.
>
> Ciao,
> Marcello
> (BTW, I'm a "strictly by the rules" guy)
>
> 2009/8/1 Tom Flanagan <tflans...@hotmail.com>
>
>  Legality for the hackers I often made clubs for seldom was an issue. 15 -
> 18 clubs in the bag, doublefaced chippers, illegal grips and heads, illegal
> balls, etc. So what? That's the way the guys played the game with their
> regular friends. Cheating? "Big deal", they said. "We're all carrying
> illegal equipment. It's our business, not anybody else's". Preferred lies, 4
> foot gimmies, rooties, kick it out of divots, practice swings in bunkers and
> water hazards, "hey, that's the way we play, how does that affect you"?
> We can moralize but that's not an uncommon thing among non-tournament guys
> - at least in my experience.
>
> Speaking of double faced chippers, how about the Acushnet "Bullseye" putter
> of years ago? That was a two faced club and perfectly legal. I played one
> for many years. It was a great little putter, especially on quick greens.
> T
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 20:59:24 +0200
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Favorite Club for 2009
> From: marcello.fran...@gmail.com
> To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com
>
>
> Beware... putter grip on a chipper is illegal too.
>
> Ciao,
> Marcello
>
>
> 2009/8/1 Tom Flanagan <tflans...@hotmail.com>
>
>  We used to call them "jiggers"  or "chippers". 7 or 8 iron length, 8 - 9
> iron loft, wide sole, relatively heavy weights, sometimes with a putter
> grip. I have a couple of them in my pile of cast-offs. They even came
> double-faced - illegal but my father-in-law had one and used it to great
> effect. Every one I've seen was a "off-brand" from component catalogs. I
> assembled several over a fairly short period of time for some higher
> handicap guys who had troubles with the "flippy wrist syndrome". Use a
> putting grip around the green and "jigger" the ball up to the hole. They
> work.
> TFlan
>
> > Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:05:00 -0400
> > To: shoptalk@mail.msen.com
> > From: j...@clubmaker-online.com
> > Subject: ShopTalk: Favorite Club for 2009
>
> >
> > Now that the golf season has been in full swing for a while and
> > you've had a chance to try out 2009 component combo's, I wonder which
> > you all had the most luck with.
> > My favorite new club is the Cleveland Niblick. I finally gave up
> > trying to learn how to chip and the Niblick has saved me on many
> > occasions. Last week I sunk two long chips out of 9 holes.
> > --
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> > John Muir
> > http://clubmaker-online.com
> > http://gripscience.com
> > http://thedriverstudio.com
> > http://twitter.com/golfcast
> > 810.923.7396
> >
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