Yeah, play the whites and post the blues. That's another thing guys I knew 
posted. 

TFlan

> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:55:27 -0700
> From: ericschoonma...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Handicap
> To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com
> 
> At my course (par 71), the blues (typical member tees) are rated at 72.1/130. 
>  The golds are 73.4/137.  I try to explain to the other members that a guy 
> who plays from the golds all the time, and is a 10 hdcp (8.* index) probably 
> hardly ever shoots 81.  Certainly less often than a 10 hdcp (8.* index) from 
> the blues.  And if you consider the white tees which has a rating of 68.*/125 
> or so, a 10 hdcp there (still approx 8.* index) will shoot 81 or better MUCH 
> more often.
> 
>  ------------------------------------
> Eric Schoonmaker
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Dave Tutelman <dtutel...@optonline.net>
> > To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com
> > Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 12:21:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Handicap
> > 
> > At 11:39 AM 8/6/2009, Eric Schoonmaker wrote:
> > > ...if you are playing a set of tees where the course rating is 
> > > substantially 
> > lower than par then you will shoot your course hdcp or better probably a 
> > fair 
> > amount of the time.  Conversely if you play the tips, and that course 
> > rating is 
> > say 6 strokes higher than par then you might NEVER shoot your hdcp 
> > (relative to 
> > par).
> > 
> > That's an interesting statement. I have to agree with it. The reason I 
> > consider 
> > it true is a bit complex:
> > 
> > (1) Course rating, as I noted in a previous post, is mostly based on length 
> > of 
> > the course. Slope is mostly based on other factors.
> > 
> > (2) Therefore... Which tees you play from affects the course rating and the 
> > length.
> > 
> > (3) That works... IF AND ONLY IF the course rating actually reflects the 
> > change 
> > in difficulty due to difference in length. I'm sure it does for some 
> > golfers, 
> > BUT...
> > 
> > ...The length probably does not matter as much to a Tour quality player as 
> > the 
> > change in rating. If you look at scores in Tour events, there isn't that 
> > much 
> > difference relative to par as they change the length of the course. It is 
> > other 
> > factors that make the course difficult to these guys.
> > 
> > ...OTOH, for a 68-year-old 14-index like me, the length adds more strokes 
> > to my 
> > score than the change in rating would suggest. For instance, I play 
> > Charleston 
> > Springs fairly frequently, where there is a 500yd difference between the 
> > white 
> > and gold tees; that equates to a 2-stroke difference in rating. I play both 
> > tees, depending on the mood of the group I'm with. For me, the difference 
> > in 
> > difficulty is more like 4-5 strokes. From the golds, I'm hitting a wood or 
> > hybrid for my second shot on almost all the par-fours; from the whites, 
> > it's 
> > always an iron with any decent drive at all.
> > 
> > Hope this was clear.
> > 
> > Cheers!
> > DaveT
> > 
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